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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Letus Gimbal

Samir - I might humbly suggest that if you are waiting for impressive footage to make a choice of stabilizers, you are going about it the wrong way. If that were the criteria, I would say the demo piece that Ronin did a few months ago would take the prize. But, I really don't think the average user with his new Ronin is yet getting those results; any more than the average Helix user is.

The Movi seems, to me, to be the most mature product at this point in time and so might be the "safest" choice - for now. But, of course, that level of confidence come at a price. IMO, the other brands are currently still working with their software to "get it right." If you read the Ronin threads, those people are tweaking things and having issues of balance, etc. I know that Helix owners, like me, are doing the same.

BeSteady may be in a slightly different state. They have spent a very long time getting their product to market and, in that time, just may have moved their software farther forward. But, we can't tell yet because they have struggled mightily to get even one unit out the door, which does not bode well for service after the fact. Time will tell with them.

There are many, many other, lesser know gimbals out there but they all seem, like Ronin and BeSteady, to be design clones of Movi. Now, that could be a good thing but a question is, given that design, when their software matures, is that all there is? If they all handle about the same, there will be a price war and you will want to wait it out to see who wins in offering the best combination of effective software and quality hardware for the best pricing, given that design.

But, here is where I think things change when you consider Helix. First of all, it is a distinctly different design and, IMO, a better one. (You have to make up your own mind about that.) Right now, the design offers a continuous switch to suitcase mode and back, use on a steadicam sled (single axis), use as a remote head (double or quad axis), hand held, arm/vest mounted and many other configurations in combination with various third party support options coming along (EasyRig, Serene Arm, ActionProducts Runner, etc.) It's the most versatile gimbal-based stabilizer design. It is lighter than most and has a large payload capacity. There is a lot to like.

IF I am right, and it turns out to offer advantages based on its design, then the software will come along and it will just get better. And, from what I have seen, that will happen quickly. I know there is a tremendous amount of work being done behind the scenes.

Finally - and I can't stress this enough - Letus is a top-notch, first rate, financially solid, high class company, owned and run by dedicated, smart talented and committed people. This is not meant to take anything from any other individual, company or organization but none of the others can make a claim to better customer service than Letus has already shown. i know that they plan, and will inevitably succeed, to deliver the very best stabilizing system possible. It will probably not be the cheapest, but I dare say it will offer incredible value.



Now - as for why there is not that much footage, this is my story. And keep in mind that I am working solely with a RED Scarlet which weighs in at around 12-14 pounds when configured. Had I decided to start with my Canon 60D or buy a GH4, things would probably have come together more quickly.

I got one of the very early units (#2) and spent a good deal of time working with balance and choosing among various configurations. That is probably the most time-consuming thing of all. Choosing what components you want on your camera - i.e. how to monitor the signal, how to pull focus, best power options, various wireless possibilities, etc - it gets complicated pretty quickly. I also insisted on balancing my camera around the optical center (for very specific reasons too detailed to discuss here) and that introduced additional challenges in getting to my optimal configuration. At various points, I did get some very good set-ups and shot some pretty decent footage. But, my assumption has always been that I'd get decent footage so my goal was to streamline the configuration and create ways to shoot stuff more quickly, easily and effectively.

To be sure, I have not spent full time working with Helix over the last few weeks, so only so much can get done. But, I have spent much time working with my unit as I described above and giving feedback to Letus about any and all issues, both good and bad, that I noticed. As a result, my own unit is currently back in Portland for the second time so they could tweak some small hardware pieces and, also, because the new firmware didn't seem to like my logic board - although there may have been some operator error involved. :-) I expect it back this week (very short turnaround, I might add) and will start in to fiddling once more.

So, my focus has not been to capture and show off footage but, rather, to develop my own ground up expertise with the system. I also think that the Helix system you end up with in a couple weeks or so will be even better than my SN #0002 was, thanks to the carefully listening that Letus did with its early adopters.

Anyway, this is too long of an answer to your question but I urge you to broaden your perspective on how to choose a gimbal-based stabilizer. And, best of luck making the right decision for you!
 
Elizabeth,
I am sure your film will come out well. Keep on refining your story.

By the way, has anyone seen the announcement about the Probotic Centerpiece brushless gimbal controller? http://cinescopophilia.com/phobotic-centerpiece-is-a-leap-in-gimbal-performance/

The controller at 600 usd is a bit pricey but is claimed to be better than alexmos. Wonder how it will work with the Helix.

I haven't used mine since the one outdoor test I did on a playground in late July, which went well, all things considered, and gave me great confidence that -- with practice and some software fine tuning -- the Helix would give me everything I hoped for in a handheld stabilizer. I certainly had planned to do a lot more with it by now, but weather, lack of assistance, and time were factors the first couple of weeks I had it. And what I didn't anticipate was that something would happen in early August that radically affected my personal life and the unfolding story that is the subject of my passion film project, a documentary about the intense, often excruciatingly painful spiritual transformation that started for me over five years ago.

That project had more or less been on hold for 18 months, and I felt like I'd hit a motivational/emotional wall where it was concerned. So this latest, turbo-charged impetus to continue literally came out of the blue. I'm devoting nearly all my time these days to writing and working on the structure for the film, shot descriptions, etc, with hopes to resume actual shooting in early 2015. The Helix will figure into the project in more ways than just as a production tool since it proved a pivotal symbol in this very important, perhaps culminating phase of my journey. In that sense, it's already been invaluable to me, even though I have yet to shoot a real scene with it.:-)

My experience probably isn't typical, but I'm sure others have their own reasons for either not shooting as much as they may have planned or not feeling motivated to share what they have shot. I still hope to do some real testing with it once the energies in my own mind and psyche calm down enough to let me split focus away from writing. But I'm in NW Florida, and, for some reason, the hottest, most humid time of the year wasn't July, as usual, but August and even into the first week of September. It is so muggy and YUCKY outside right now (rumbling thunder, 90 degrees, and nearly 90% humidity) that it's been easy to just say "I'll wait."
 
Damn liar Terry. LOL

My calculus of time frame is based on

1) IBC - something cool always happens at IBC and takes a little time to roll out and study
2) Firmware - we have just had a significant firmware update and there are kinks to be worked out
3) I think it takes this kind of a time frame to do your homework

Just my noodling.
 
Note, you have more than done your part to post footage. So I'm glad you posted a reminder of that fact.:-)

That Children of War film looks very interesting, BTW. Let us know what happens with it.
 
Note, you have more than done your part to post footage. So I'm glad you posted a reminder of that fact.:-)

That Children of War film looks very interesting, BTW. Let us know what happens with it.
Thanks Elizabeth and I hope the same to you. We should all gather at Letus HQ one day haha.

Grabbing a wireless focus in a few weeks and will post more stuff.
 
Check this out: CINEGEARS Single-Axis Wireless Follow Focus Kit

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Key Features:

  • Compatible with all Cine style lenses, shipped with different Pitch gears;
  • 4 custom programmable preset buttons with adjustable speed wheels;
  • Single-Axis model store Lens data within the wireless motor, no receiver is required;
  • Two wireless motor model with different torque ranges for standard and heavy Cine lenses;
  • Automatic or manual lens limit calibration setup;
  • Automatic reverse lens gear protection for Cine or DSLR lens;
  • Motor drive made of steel and aluminum, production prove for heavy Lens;
  • Remote recording trigger is available for Sony Canon and ARRI cameras etc.;
  • Time apse capability with Cinegears Wireless motion control system WRT2, Support Sony, Nikon, Canon DSLR;
  • Wireless controller has build-in lithium battery with 20 continuous working hours;get charged while it is working;
  • Wireless controller can be charge with standard USB cable or replaceable external battery;
  • Adjustable hard stops, and indicator focus ring, replaceable magnitude focus marker ring;
  • Wireless controller can be attached to 15mm or 19mm rod (vertically or horizontally) for finger tip focus control;
Whats the pricing on these?
 
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Ok, Helix buddies. You said your right thumb was getting jealous of the left thumbs little controller?

Iphone 1/4-20 to handle with Foolcontrol and Hotlink- right thumb control of Red and ef lenses, finger licking good.
 

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Threw the helix into the fire today on a full on TVC for beer. It really is starting to shine. Got some amazing stuff on the dragon that was just not possible before. Low to high shots of people walking, shooting out of minivan windows. The small form factor was impressive. I carried and shot with it for about 2 hours and It was fine. the only glitch was tilting up past 70 degrees it would start to wobble and shake but it could be from not being perfectly balanced.

I've had my moments with the thing, but I'm getting very edited about the possibilities. Not sure I'll want to shoot without it if it gets any better :)
 
Ok, Helix buddies. You said you right thumb was getting jealous of the left thumbs little controller?

Iphone 1/4-20 to handle with Foolcontrol and Hotlink- right thumb control of Red and ef lenses, finger licking good.

Hi Scot, nice meeting you at IBC.

I will have to make a horizontal layout if you plan on using foolcontrol like that. Focus might still work as it is now but probably will need to adapt the UI to be more usable in such a config :-)

Please let me know if you can reliabily fix an iPhone case on your gimbal and send some pictures by email.
 
Hi Mikael,

I'll be dropping off the Helix to Mark at OffHollywood during the week. He is going to work with it. Between you two and Le at Helix the whole Dragon ergonomics, ease of use and control has skyrocketed.
 
Hi Mikael,

I'll be dropping off the Helix to Mark at OffHollywood during the week. He is going to work with it. Between you two and Le at Helix the whole Dragon ergonomics, ease of use and control has skyrocketed.

Mark is in NY but I'm in Paris (well I'm in Munich at the moment for cinec...).
Will see what we can do to make it work in the best possible way, maybe with a micro tactile thumb knob or precise slider exactly positioned for handle use...
 
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