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Lens Package Options for Epic (1/2011)

On Canon - the 135 is junk for cine - focus does not move nicely - it "jitters".

I'd say a 70-200 zoom is a better bet.
 
James Brundige said:
The only thing I don't care for is the extra small size of the 50 mm
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Same. There are rumors going around that a 50 mm f1.2 G series lens might be released this year, which one would expect to be closer to the dimensions of the 24, 35, and 85 G's.

This is the prime set i am looking to put together for use with Epic-S, but with the 60mm f2.8 macro instead of the 50 1.4 to start, in the hope a 50 1.2 isn't far away
 
If I had to go Nikon

I would take this :

Nikkor 14-24mm f2.8_____$2000
Nikon 35mm 1.4 G____$1900
Nikon 50mm 1.4 G____$400
Nikon 85mm 1.4 G____$1800
Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8 II__$2200

Total $8300
Most users rarely need the shallow dof below 25mm and longer than 85mm doesn't necessary need highspeed, because it's getting hard to focus, and 100mm at 2.8 is still nice, and the only faster lens is the 105mm only T2.0 not 1.4 (and an old lens too)
 
Trevor Emmerson said:
Same. There are rumors going around that a 50 mm f1.2 G series lens might be released this year, which one would expect to be closer to the dimensions of the 24, 35, and 85 G's.

This is the prime set i am looking to put together for use with Epic-S, but with the 60mm f2.8 macro instead of the 50 1.4 to start, in the hope a 50 1.2 isn't far away
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Great news. A 77 mm front 50 mm lens would really make a set. Have you used the G primes? I'm waiting to see when Red actually supports electronic aperture control to pull the trigger. Zeiss ZF if it takes too long.
 
James, i haven't used the G primes as yet. I'm waiting to see how they will play with Epic as well. The 24 and 85 particularly have received rave reviews from stills guys, but across the board i think its pretty much as good as its going to get for a set of modern digital lenses.

Aperture control will almost certainly not be an issue as its been stated many times that all electronic features on these modern lenses will be able to be controlled by the camera.

It is more the unknown factors of how effective the algorithms Red is having to write for autofocus on these 3rd party lenses are, and how that autofocus works when tracking subjects in motion. As well as how the touch focus features work with nikon/canon stills glass compared with Reds upcoming electric offerings or the tried and tested manual everything shooting style used with traditional cine glass.

I'm loathe to misquote Jim on this, but i think from memory the phrase game changing or similar was mentioned in regard to this new hybrid style of shooting. We're all waiting with baited breath to see how it works in practice b4 making final decisions on glass. At least i am anyway.

If cine glass turns out to still be preferable for what i want to do, then its Cooke Panchros all the way for me. Haven't used them, but have been in love since moment i saw them and have heard nothing but good things. To me T2.8 is not too slow at all when matched to modern sensors like MX and the round the corner Monstro.
 
Correct Name

Correct Name

The S35mm lenses from Luma Tech, made by the LOMO factory in St. Petersburg are called S35mm Illuminas. There is no such name as S35mm Optar Illuminas.
The price for a set of S35mm Illuminas is now $29,995.
 
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Fred Salaff said:
The S35mm lenses from Luma Tech, made by the LOMO factory in St. Petersburg are call S35mm Illuminas. There is no such name as S35mm Optar Illuminas.
The price for a set of S35mm Illuminas is now $29,995.
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Thanks, Fred. I made the change.
 
Hey guys. I have a question about the Zeiss Compact Primes. With the completely inconsistent f-stops, especially in the wides, why would anyone pay $24,000 for these? If you want cinema grade PL glass, the RED Primes seem much more professional. If it's about the physical size, you could find a set of used Zeiss Super Speeds for just a little more. And if it's about needing a Canon mount, for $24,000 you could get two full sets of Canon primes and have a spare 5D to boot. Am I missing something here?
 
Julio Quintana said:
Hey guys. I have a question about the Zeiss Compact Primes. With the completely inconsistent f-stops, especially in the wides, why would anyone pay $24,000 for these? If you want cinema grade PL glass, the RED Primes seem much more professional. If it's about the physical size, you could find a set of used Zeiss Super Speeds for just a little more. And if it's about needing a Canon mount, for $24,000 you could get two full sets of Canon primes and have a spare 5D to boot. Am I missing something here?
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I think the main selling point would be that they are primes you can use on your DSLR, but unlike using Canon L series primes they do not breathe. (I haven't used one Canon/Sigma lense that would be suitable for any type of film work where focus pulling is required)
 
Ryan Lalonde said:
I think the main selling point would be that they are primes you can use on your DSLR, but unlike using Canon L series primes they do not breathe. (I haven't used one Canon/Sigma lense that would be suitable for any type of film work where focus pulling is required)
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Makes sense I guess. I just usually associate DSLR's with tighter budgets, and the Compact Primes seem a little pricey, especially when compared to their faster Canon counterparts.

Julio
 
The choice its easy..

Red Pro Prime Set T1.8 across
(18, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100)
Total
$23,000

Arri Master Prime set T1.3 across
(18, 25, 35, 50 75, 100 Macro)
Total $130ish

Leica Summilux-C Prime Set T1.4 across
(18, 21, 25, 35, 40, 50, 75, 100)
Total
$178,000

Still not sure on the Zoom side, need to have some serious tests done with the Customized RPZ 17-50's to know more, if not the best bet for 3D will be ...


Angenieux Optimo Zoom T2.8 Set
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 16-42mm Zoom Lens 20,500
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 30-80mm Zoom Lens 20,500
Total 41,000


Canon "L" series for some Photography work and possibly some DocuFilm work in super light set up.
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
The choice its easy..

Still not sure on the Zoom side, need to have some serious tests done with the Customized RPZ 17-50's to know more, if not the best bet for 3D will be
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Customized? Ketch, are you Duclosing your RPZ?

Duclos
-verb
1. to improve mechanically; to rehouse; to augment original designs; to smoothen movement; to increase the accuracy of (Specifically in regards to Cinematography Lenses)
 
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