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Lens Package Options for Epic (1/2011)

Julio Quintana

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Hey guys. So I started another thread asking for advice on Canon lenses, but the discussion eventually broadened into Canon and PL options, so I thought it might be useful to compile what people think are good PACKAGES (not just individual lenses). Any kind of lens package is fair game, just please include prices wherever possible so it's easy to compare. Here are mine. I'll add to this list as others post:

CANON ZOOM SET
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8______$600
Canon 16-35mm f2.8______$1400
Canon 24-70mm f2.8______$1300
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L II__$2250
TOTAL
$5,550

NIKON ZOOM SET
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8_____$600
Nikkor 14-24mm f2.8_____$2000
Nikkor 24-70mm f2.8_____$1600
Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8 II__$2200
Total
$6,400

NIKON PRIME SET
Nikon 16mm f2.8_____$1000
Nikon 24mm f1.4 G___$1900
Nikon 35mm 1.4 G____$1900
Nikon 50mm 1.4 G____$400
Nikon 85mm 1.4 G____$1800
Total
$7000

ZEISS ZE (Canon) PRIMES
18mm f3.5____$1400
21mm f2.8____$1700
35mm f2______$1000
50mm f2______$1200
85mm f1.4____$1300
100mm f2_____$1800
Total
$8,400

CANON PRIME SET
Canon 14mm f2.8_______$2100
Canon 24mm f1.4L II____$1700
Canon 35mm f1.4L______$1400
Canon 50mm f1.2L______$1600
Canon 85mm f1.2L II____$1800
Canon 135mm f2_______$1000
TOTAL
$9,600

RED ZOOM SET
RED Pro 17-50mm f2.9__________$6000
RED 50-150mm f3______________$8500
TOTAL
$14,500

Zeiss Standard Speed primes
16mm T2.1_____________$3500
24mm T2.1_____________$3500
32mm T2.1_____________$3500
50mm T2.1_____________$3500
85mm T2.1_____________$3500
Total (used)
$17,500

Unique Optics Razor 7D Set f1.9
(18, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100)
Total
$21,500

RED PRIME SET
RED Prime 18mm f1.9____________$3,800
RED Prime Set (25, 35, 50, 85, 100) f1.9___$19,000
TOTAL
$22,800

ZEISS Compact Primes 2
18mm f3.6______$3900
25mm f2.9______$3900
35mm f2.1______$3900
50mm f2.1______$3900
85mm f2.1______$3900
100mm f2.1_____$4900
Total
$24,400

Schneider Cine-Xenar Prime Set ~T2.0
18mm T1.9_____$????
(25, 35, 50, 75, 95)____$22,500
Total
~$27,500

S35 Illumina Set T1.3
35mm Set (18, 25, 35, 50, 85)
Total
$30,000

Zeiss MKI Super Speed Set T1.3
(18, 25, 35, 50, & 85)
Total (used)
~$25,000

Unique Optics PL Set T1.9
Signature Series Set (18, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100)
Total
$32,000

Angenieux Optimo Zoom T2.8 Set
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 16-42mm____$20,500
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 30-80mm____$20,500
Total
$41,000

Cooke Panchro Lens Set T2.8 across
Cooke PANCHRO 18mm_____$8900
PANCHRO Set (25, 32, 50, 75, 100)___$33,600
Total
$42,500

Arri/Zeiss Ultra Prime Set T1.9
(16, 24, 32, 50, 85, 100)
Total
$77,000

Arri/Zeiss Master Prime Set T1.3
(18, 25, 35, 50, 75, 100)
Total
$135,000

Leica Summilux-C Prime Set T1.4 across
(18, 21, 25, 35, 40, 50, 75, 100)
Total
$178,000
 
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Angenieux Optimo Zoom T2.8 Set
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 16-42mm Zoom Lens 20,500
Angenieux Optimo DP Rouge 30-80mm Zoom Lens 20,500
Total 41,000

Cooke Panchro Lens Set T2.8 across
Cooke 18mm PANCHRO Lens - 8900
PANCHRO Lens Set ( 25mm, 32mm , 50mm, 75mm & 100mm) - $33,600
Total 42,500

Leica Summilux-C Prime Set T1.4 across
18mm, 21mm, 25mm, 35mm, 40mm, 50mm, 75mm, and 100mm - $178,000
 
Starters kit

Nikon Zoom set
Nikkor f/4 G 16-35 approx $1200
Nikkor f/3.5-5.6 G 28-300 approx $1100
 
Optar Illumina T1.3 Set
35mm Set (18, 25, 35, 50, 85)___$27,000


Unique optics T1.9 Set
Signature Series Set (18, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100) __$32,000
Razor 7D (18, 25, 35, 50, 85, 100)__$21,500


The Illuminas might be a little more, but that is the price I have in am e-mail for some reason.


Dusty
 
Let's also put the usual suspects on here like Super Speeds (all versions), Ultra Primes, Master Primes, etc. I have no experience purchasing high end glass so maybe other people could chime in on prices and ideal packages.
 
Maybe....

Canon EOS converted 14mm Master Prime_____$30,000?
Canon 16-35mm f2.8______$1400
Canon 24mm f1.4L II____$1800
Canon 50mm f1.2L______$1600
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L II__$2250
Canon 85mm f1.2L II____$1800
Canon 500mm f/4____$6200

TOTAL
$45,000
 
Tom Lowe said:
Maybe....

Canon EOS converted 14mm Master Prime_____$30,000?
Canon 16-35mm f2.8______$1400
Canon 24mm f1.4L II____$1800
Canon 50mm f1.2L______$1600
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L II__$2250
Canon 85mm f1.2L II____$1800
Canon 500mm f/4____$6200

TOTAL
$45,000
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LOL. Tom, you would add $30,000 to a Canon package just for one focal length? Don't you think most people would just buy the Canon 14mm f2.8 so the package looks like this?


Canon 14mm f2.8_____$2000
Canon 16-35mm f2.8______$1400
Canon 24mm f1.4L II____$1800
Canon 50mm f1.2L______$1600
Canon 85mm f1.2L II____$1800
Canon 70-200mm f2.8L II__$2250
Canon 500mm f/4____$6200
Total
$17,050
 
Julio Quintana said:
LOL. Tom, you would add $30,000 to a Canon package just for one focal length? Don't you think most people would just buy the Canon 14mm f2.8 so the package looks like this?
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Hehe. But trust me when I tell you that I have some very specific uses for that 12mm or 14mm Master Prime! Mostly it's for specialized astrophotography... like filming astro timelapse from a moving boat at Lake Powell, for example. But I also love the idea of being able to use that 14mm MP on a Steadicam in super low light (after sunset or at night at 24fps), as another example. A couple stops could make a huge difference for some shots I have in mind, and the ultra-wide, ultra-fast, ultra-sharp, 5K-ready prime is the one thing missing from a Canon still lens package, from my point of view. I can live with the iris nonsense, and I actually prefer a shorter focus through for the type of stuff I am shooting now.
 
Placing my deposit for the Cooke Panchros on monday with ZGC... to quote Tonaci:
Cooke Panchro Lens Set T2.8 across
Cooke 18mm PANCHRO Lens - 8900
PANCHRO Lens Set ( 25mm, 32mm , 50mm, 75mm & 100mm) - $33,600
Total 42,500

For low light I'll back these up with Zeiss ZF's

35 T/1.4 $2093 with Duclos Mod (This Lens shipping SOMETIME this year)
50 T/1.4 $1075 with Duclos Mod
85 T/1.4 $1625 with Duclos Mod

Plus I have my RPS 17-50 that I'm pretty sure I'll hold onto.

CB
 
I would prefer the Nikon 14-24 over the 17-35, as would, I think, most people.
 
Most would probably get the top Nikon 70-200 II as well, which goes for about $2100. It is the lens most similar to Canon's 70-200 II.
 
paul engstrom said:
I would prefer the Nikon 14-24 over the 17-35, as would, I think, most people.
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14 - 24 is a special tool, and difficult to filter. It's an amazing lens, but my 17-35 spends a lot more time on the camera. When I'm on the move, it's a real go-to, and the screw on filters are quick.

The 17 -35 beats the hell out of my carefully collected AIS Nikkor prime set. There's something about the latest Nikon glass.

I've heard great things about the new G series primes, redesigned for digital. I've heard the new 85 finally surpasses the classic 85 AIS (which I will still keep), same for 35 mm.

For my Epic, I plan to compare those to the Zeiss ZF series.

Thoughts, reactions?
 
I own the Nikon 17-35mm and I really love it, but I've never used the 14-24mm so I'm just taking Paul's word for it.

The list is getting pretty comprehensive now. This would be a great time for people to start listing the strengths and weaknesses of the different options presented. It would also be great if people could say which set they would be most likely to buy vs. rent and why. Maybe people could also say how much they would be willing to pay to rent specific sets. Here, for example, are my votes:

Buy: RED Pro Primes
I haven't worked with them, but they seem like an amazing value compared to all other PL mount sets. I only wish they weren't so big. I have also seen some troubling posts about rainbow flares, but most people find it to be a very minor issue.

Rent: Zeiss Super Speeds
Although they are basically unusable wide open, they are really small and light, which is a big plus for me. They are also pretty abundant, so rates are reasonable. Here in Austin, a set of five rents for about $1000-$1200/week.
 
For my style, single operator with no need for AC's and the like, still lenses are great. I believe the new Nikons are every bit as good as most cine primes, optically speaking. (of course the mechanics of the cine lenses are far superior - you ought to get something for the extra $40K)

I'll be testing them against various Zeiss to make sure, but I'd like to nominate this set for consideration:

Nikon 24 mm 1.4 G $1900
Nikon 35 MM 1.4 G $1900
Nikon 50 mm 1.4 G $400
Nikon 85 mm 1.4 G $1800

Total for this set $6000

Add the 14 -24 zoom, 28 -70, and prime telephotos and it's a really full kit. The only thing I don't care for is the extra small size of the 50 mm - harder to share matteboxes.

This will of course rest on the availability of camera based electronic aperture control.
 
Thanks James. I added a Nikon 16mm f2.8 to your list just to try and keep it consistent with the other sets. You're probably right, though, that most people would probably cover the wide end with the 14-24mm instead since they're the same f-stop.
 
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