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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

KOMODO....

my photography background and doing fashion shoots (both still and video) made me curious about the global shutter as if it allows us to actually use the komodo for photography in a practical way!? I mean using strobes and flashes to light the subject and then grab the frame from a 40fps footage (i wish it could be faster, maybe in future firmware updates) when the exposure is as desired in that particular frame. obviously it all depends on the shutter angle as well, and so many other factors. but it can be an awesome solution for taking still shots with RED by taking advantage of the global shutter.

does anyone know if that's possible with komodo?

It can also be a dream camera for those who do concert videos where they have to deal with so many flashing lights all over the place, am I right?
 
Farbod Green said:
my photography background and doing fashion shoots (both still and video) made me curious about the global shutter as if it allows us to actually use the komodo for photography in a practical way!? I mean using strobes and flashes to light the subject and then grab the frame from a 40fps footage (i wish it could be faster, maybe in future firmware updates) when the exposure is as desired in that particular frame. obviously it all depends on the shutter angle as well, and so many other factors. but it can be an awesome solution for taking still shots with RED by taking advantage of the global shutter.

does anyone know if that's possible with komodo?

It can also be a dream camera for those who do concert videos where they have to deal with so many flashing lights all over the place, am I right?
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Definitely. No flash or strobe banding with global shutter.
 
Jarred Land said:
No penalty for the size.. no penalty for the Global shutter either . it's a real RED camera , and hence image is #1. You can expect Komodo to fall in the vicinity of a Helium for dynamic range, in both Global Shutter mode and Rolling Shutter mode.
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This right here is why I'm most excited about Komodo. The shots from Michael Bay's SB commercial using the Komodo were… disappointing. Let's hope it was a hasty color grade.

https://jmp.sh/Z85TpLI
 
Tim Erickson said:
This right here is why I'm most excited about Komodo. The shots from Michael Bay's SB commercial using the Komodo were… disappointing. Let's hope it was a hasty color grade.
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Or it could be the web compression. Be like buyers of stills cameras and assume you haven't seen what the output looks like until you've shot with it yourself or at least seen raw files shot under known conditions.
 
Tim Erickson said:
This right here is why I'm most excited about Komodo. The shots from Michael Bay's SB commercial using the Komodo were… disappointing. Let's hope it was a hasty color grade.

https://jmp.sh/Z85TpLI
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Bays commercial was un-descriminating in the heavy handed grade.... Monstro and Helium were pushed to oblivion out of bounds in the grade just as much as the Komodo was... And a lot of the good stuff was taken out because of the helicopter sensitivity at the time so some of the story was missing which was a bit confusing to pretty much everyone. I know it's not what all you pixel peepers were after but that commercial was invaluable to us.. There were no image issues "in the can" and we learned a ton from that shoot from a mechanical perspective with Komodo.
 
Jarred Land said:
Bays commercial was un-descriminating in the heavy handed grade.... Monstro and Helium were pushed to oblivion out of bounds in the grade just as much as the Komodo was... And a lot of the good stuff was taken out because of the helicopter sensitivity at the time so some of the story was missing which was a bit confusing to pretty much everyone. I know it's not what all you pixel peepers were after but that commercial was invaluable to us.. There were no image issues "in the can" and we learned a ton from that shoot from a mechanical perspective with Komodo.
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All good, thanks for clearing that up! Perhaps I missed a post in this giant thread where you answered this already, but appreciate you repeating if so. I'm sure it gets annoying for all of us to be going on tangential speculation, but we're excited about this project and actively choosing to discuss it rather than buying cameras from other companies that are approaching similar feature sets at cheaper prices. We're here for the RED image, so dynamic range is important. As for pixel peeping, I care less for resolution and more for DR and speed of workflow.
 
Tim Erickson said:
All good, thanks for clearing that up! Perhaps I missed a post in this giant thread where you answered this already, but appreciate you repeating if so. I'm sure it gets annoying for all of us to be going on tangential speculation, but we're excited about this project and actively choosing to discuss it rather than buying cameras from other companies that are approaching similar feature sets at cheaper prices. We're here for the RED image, so dynamic range is important. As for pixel peeping, I care less for resolution and more for DR and speed of workflow.
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Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
 
Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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is that in consideration of it being a global shutter or is it another factor?
 
Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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This is big for me. Fantastic news!
 
Would anyone like to hazard a guess for when the full specs will be released? Days? Weeks? Months?
 
I just hope it isn't like the Hydrogen Ti a day late and dollar short

I have a bad feeling it is going to be 1-2 months.
 
Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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Amazing news. Liking Komodo more and more.
 
Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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Great!! DSMC3 feature is looking brighter ;)
 
Robert P Eagleton said:
I just hope it isn't like the Hydrogen Ti a day late and dollar short

I have a bad feeling it is going to be 1-2 months.
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You probably should just give up now.... please. We started the very fragile 12-week Stormtrooper countdown barely 2 weeks ago... so I have no idea what you are already bitching about...
 
Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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Oh, wow! That's amazing!!!
Another promise kept!
Kudos for the new sensor design! Which also gives me a few hints as to some other features that could come as a result of that :)
The baby Dragon has so many secrets up its sleeve!
I'm sure at least some of that will be implemented in the DSMC3 line as Ketch mentioned :)

Jarred Land said:
You probably should just give up now.... please. We started the very fragile 12-week Stormtrooper countdown barely 2 weeks ago... so I have no idea what you are already bitching about...
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Good things come to those who wait! :cheers2:
 
Not a bitch just a statement,never heard of your 12 week countdown.

So 2 1/2 months,sensitive are we!
 
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Jarred Land said:
Komodo is inching very close to Helium in terms of dynamic range. There is one considerable difference though... The Komodo has an almost absolute absence of CMOS smear, so in those very extreme contrast situations and high ISOs with the blacks right up against whites the image is much, much more consistent.
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so it's better than other entry-level cameras like C200, Ursa Mini Pro, Z Cam F6 or Kinefinity cameras?
 
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