KOMODO....

[Alex Stolpakov]

I guess I'll show my rigid Komodo RF > PL Adapter setup shortly. It's easy, using a baseplate as you go into Komodo and that little lens support bracket on the mount adapter. That foot platform is there for a reason on the Metabones (and other adapters) as it's designed to help solve heavier and longer lenses. Much like using an actual lens support bracket via rods on longer zooms.

I don't know what the RF Mount "purely" is rated for yet, I suspect it's 8-12lbs total, but that always depends on lens length and weight. The most recent Metabones PL Mount, the one I went with after testing other options on the market btw, is surprisingly well built. 4-6lbs really isn't a problem so far on the mount. I'll toss a heavy lens on there to see if I can break it I guess. But honestly any sane person wouldn't do that.


If you're referring to the ecosystem, I think you're looking at Komodo differently than pretty much anybody who has seen it. If you need to make the camera really, really, really small Komodo + RF Lens. If you are looking to use a PL Adapter you can. If you are looking to use behind the lens ND you can. If you are looking to adapt nearly any lens to the camera, you can. That's sort of the purpose of going with that mount.

It's interesting RED didn't go with removable mounts here, but it's pretty easy to see why as Komodo is pretty much an out of the box experience. That will likely remain a concept for the larger bodies for years to come.

I guess if you are also looking for a very rigid PL mount without the use of a baseplate solution you can build one that physical mounts to the points on camera as well. Also not mind blowing to do.

And who knows, maybe RED will make a RF to PL Adapter at some point too. There's already a few decent solutions out there.

If there were any major red flags here you'd see me stamping my feet about it. I'm a bit of a lens nut.

The thing is even you speak about this camera as owner operator and its nice. But renting cameras a bit different, sometimes it's just giving a call for a camera body or two and expect it next day to arrive ready to shoot. All I am saying Pl version is good too at least for rentals (even if its a bit more pricy).
And how you adjust back focus on adapters, can you shim them?

 

[Nik Harper]

I don't see this monitor as a good sign...
-No power output from Komodo?
-Komodo needs three batteries to operate now?
-I'm sure it's temporary, but it means that the definitive monitor (the one using the pins...) is not ready yet. Maybe not a good sign.

Also, I would have focus on the camera...

The built in monitor on top gives you an image as well. So you only need one battery to operate. If you had a monitor mounted like he does, you can go with one on the monitor and one on the back of the camera. Although, those batteries are super cheap so that doesn't really seem like an issue given that they last forever.

Remember this camera isn't supposed to chew through batteries. If that changes then I would see that as a problem but I don't think that's going to happen.

 

[Bob Gundu]

I don't see this monitor as a good sign...
-No power output from Komodo?
-Komodo needs three batteries to operate now?
-I'm sure it's temporary, but it means that the definitive monitor (the one using the pins...) is not ready yet. Maybe not a good sign.

Also, I would have focus on the camera...

there is no definitive monitor. Your phone will be the main connection.

 

[Nik Harper]

there is no definitive monitor. Your phone will be the main connection.

Doesn't the monitor on top give you picture? I thought that was the case, no?

 

[Cole Sprague]

I don't see this monitor as a good sign...
-No power output from Komodo?
-Komodo needs three batteries to operate now?
-I'm sure it's temporary, but it means that the definitive monitor (the one using the pins...) is not ready yet. Maybe not a good sign.

Also, I would have focus on the camera...

That’s a SmallHD Focus SDI, not a RED branded monitor. I don’t think we’ve been shown RED’s monitoring solution yet.

 

[Nik Harper]

yeah sorry crappy BW filter on my phone... The display is full color. That said the the UI ( at least the part showing in that image) is all pretty much monochrome minus some red outlines around the selections. It obviously gets really colorful when you get the exposure tools and general main screen etc, and of course when you have the actual viewing feed on there.

Yeah, in this post Jarred says there's a viewing feed to the built in monitor on top.

 

[Bob Gundu]

I wouldn't expect any new monitoring products until DSMC3 hits. I doubt Komodo is getting any monitoring solutions other than your own monitor, Top of camera viewer, or mobile device.

 

[Aaron Lochert]

Like PL on ALL cameras...
Which Rental House will buy into ECOSYSTEM? ( if Already invested good amount in PL glass )
Don't you want to rent a second small tiny camera to you main camera shooting the same format and using the same lenses ?

Securing mounts/adapters is a solution many cage/accessory companies have already figured out.

And how you adjust back focus on adapters, can you shim them?

Speedboosters, at least, have an infinity focus adjustment ability. I dunno about other adapters and shimming ability, though.

 

[Daniel Porto]

In other news, another image of the camera published by Jarred on Instagram featuring Vincent Laforet

Looks beautiful. Like a high resolution Micro Cinema Camera that you can dress how you like. Hurry up and release it

 

[Jarred Land]

I don't see this monitor as a good sign...
-No power output from Komodo?
-Komodo needs three batteries to operate now?
-I'm sure it's temporary, but it means that the definitive monitor (the one using the pins...) is not ready yet. Maybe not a good sign.

Also, I would have focus on the camera...

I know you are just being "that guy" at the party that likes to bitch about anything and everything... more than half your posts are complaining about random stuff. Life is short.. smile

but I just gotta point out that your photo from your signature the camera is out of focus.. Why didn't you focus on the camera? because the photo was of you correct? This photo of Vincent from my Instagram is just that... a photo of Vincent.

 

[Daniel Porto]

I know you are just being "that guy" at the party that likes to bitch about anything and everything... more than half your posts are complaining about random stuff. Life is short.. smile

but I just gotta point out that your photo from your signature the camera is out of focus.. Why didn't you focus on the camera? because the photo was of you correct? This photo of Vincent from my Instagram is just that... a photo of Vincent.

BOOM! currently my micro cinema camera is my fav setup. Batt for the cam, and double batt for the monitor. This setup runs like a champ. As long as you dont have different types of batts its all GOOD!

 

[Peter Stanley]

These will be good if you want just one battery.

https://www.coreswx.com/store.coreswx/product/nano-c98/

 

[Alvise Tedesco]

These will be good if you want just one battery.

https://www.coreswx.com/store.coreswx/product/nano-c98/

Wrong battery. That is a BP-A. Komodo uses BP-9

 

[yann LHENORET]

I know you are just being "that guy" at the party that likes to bitch about anything and everything... more than half your posts are complaining about random stuff. Life is short.. smile

but I just gotta point out that your photo from your signature the camera is out of focus.. Why didn't you focus on the camera? because the photo was of you correct? This photo of Vincent from my Instagram is just that... a photo of Vincent.

Touché Jarred! Nice to hear from you again. This picture is from Jean-Pierre Mocky, a great French director who past away a few month ago. He loved shooting with Red cameras. It was an honor for me to shoot his last movie and I'm sure he would have love The Komodo as it is.

 

[Peter Stanley]

Wrong battery. That is a BP-A. Komodo uses BP-9

Ohhh... whoops. Well they may end up doing a version in this BP-9 if we’re lucky.

 

[Bastien Tribalat]

The thing is even you speak about this camera as owner operator and its nice. But renting cameras a bit different, sometimes it's just giving a call for a camera body or two and expect it next day to arrive ready to shoot. All I am saying Pl version is good too at least for rentals (even if its a bit more pricy).
And how you adjust back focus on adapters, can you shim them?

I don't know where you live and what rental houses you work with and if you insist that much it's probably because you have that experience and I can't say you are wrong BUT just for the sake of this conversation, where I live (France), the ONLY rental house that only carry PL lenses is Panavision. All the other major ones also carry Canon EF lenses (and not only photo lenses but true cine ones that exist in EF mount like Angénieux Zooms), m4/3 lenses and even Sony E-Mount ones now.
You can check for yourself (these are three of the most popular rental houses in my country) :
https://www.photocinerent.com/en/optiques
https://www.tsf.fr/fr/catalogue/camera-optique/optiques.html
http://www.buffaloc.fr/?lng=fr&page=catalogue#cate_6_anchor


And as you can see on this picture, when you rent a PL zoom from one of them, it automatically comes with rods and lense support.

 

[Han Vogen]

In other news, another image of the camera published by Jarred on Instagram featuring Vincent Laforet

Looks amazing. I’m happy to monitor with my Note 10+ 5G or iPhone 11 Pro Max. Both have large high resolution (6.8” 1440 x 3040 pixels Note 10+ and 6.5” 1242 x 2688 pixels iPhone 11 Pro Max) daylight viewable HDR10+ displays and batteries that charge super fast and last for hours. Much better than my SmallHD or Atomos in both screen quality and battery life. The displays in top tier smartphones are state of the art and large enough to pull focus. So for me the only batteries I need worry about are those for the Komodo.

 

[Alex Stolpakov]

I don't know where you live and what rental houses you work with and if you insist that much it's probably because you have that experience and I can't say you are wrong BUT just for the sake of this conversation, where I live (France), the ONLY rental house that only carry PL lenses is Panavision. All the other major ones also carry Canon EF lenses (and not only photo lenses but true cine ones that exist in EF mount like Angénieux Zooms), m4/3 lenses and even Sony E-Mount ones now.
You can check for yourself (these are three of the most popular rental houses in my country) :
https://www.photocinerent.com/en/optiques
https://www.tsf.fr/fr/catalogue/camera-optique/optiques.html
http://www.buffaloc.fr/?lng=fr&page=catalogue#cate_6_anchor


And as you can see on this picture, when you rent a PL zoom from one of them, it automatically comes with rods and lense support.

To have in Rental not only PL but also other mounts is not the same as to wish to rent out PL or let say EF zoom. Good bet PL variant will make more money. I hope its not a surprise Rentals want to buy something that makes money and perceived as a professional tool. How much a set of Cooks S4 vs Canon EF L Primes cost to rent out?
Another example student comes to take 5D or A7 for a short, but when he or she gets the smallest gig they want RED and some good glass. Because- It feels good , It looks good.
RF mount with short flange distance so its possible to adapt different mounts is good idea, but having integrated PL version is also good, be it called "pro"or "rental"version. And RED Gods forgive me, I even think if camera will be able to shoot not only R3D but also ProRes is also good idea.

 

[Bob Gundu]

To have in Rental not only PL but also other mounts is not the same as to wish to rent out PL or let say EF zoom. Good bet PL variant will make more money. I hope its not a surprise Rentals want to buy something that makes money and perceived as a professional tool. How much a set of Cooks S4 vs Canon EF L Primes cost to rent out?
Another example student comes to take 5D or A7 for a short, but when he or she gets the smallest gig they want RED and some good glass. Because- It feels good , It looks good.
RF mount with short flange distance so its possible to adapt different mounts is good idea, but having integrated PL version is also good, be it called "pro"or "rental"version. And RED Gods forgive me, I even think if camera will be able to shoot not only R3D but also ProRes is also good idea.

That’s what DSMC3 will be. The pro version of Komodo.

 

[Bastien Tribalat]

To have in Rental not only PL but also other mounts is not the same as to wish to rent out PL or let say EF zoom. Good bet PL variant will make more money. I hope its not a surprise Rentals want to buy something that makes money and perceived as a professional tool. How much a set of Cooks S4 vs Canon EF L Primes cost to rent out?
Another example student comes to take 5D or A7 for a short, but when he or she gets the smallest gig they want RED and some good glass. Because- It feels good , It looks good.
RF mount with short flange distance so its possible to adapt different mounts is good idea, but having integrated PL version is also good, be it called "pro"or "rental"version. And RED Gods forgive me, I even think if camera will be able to shoot not only R3D but also ProRes is also good idea.

My point was that non-PL glass nowadays are good enough for B/C/D cam application IF needed.
Anyway.