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Jim, the vast majority of us RED owners are ecstactic about the upgrade offers

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Jim, as an owner of 3 RED Ones (and probably more by the time Scarlet and EPIC ship) I want you to know that I am absolutely ecstatic about the upgrade options you have offered us early adopters. I can not imagine any other company in the world offering such a generous upgrade path.

I feel I have to make this post due to the very small percentage of RED One owners how are posting that they feel you have abandoned us. I don't want the few who feel this way to change your vision or your quest to push technology light years ahead of what other companies are currently offering.

Here are the reasons I don't feel abandoned in the least:


  • 1. Accessories: Every owner complaining about their RED One being "obsolete" seems to be ignoring that fact that all of their accessories can be used with Scarlet and EPIC! (Except the RED top mount and CF module.) The accessories I have purchased for my RED bodies come to about $60k per camera. When I trade in a RED body for an EPIC or buy a Scarlet every single one of those accessories is compatible!


  • 2. First in line: RED owners can purchase a Scarlet or Epic before anyone else can. This in itself is huge. We will have the opportunity to rent to non owners wanting to test them out before they buy. We will also be the first to offer clients production with the new Mysterium X sensor.


  • 3. EPIC trade in and 12% Scarlet credit: This is an unprecedented offer. Non owners will have to pay $28,000 for the S35 EPIC and we will get it for $10,000. All of my current accessories will work with it. If I want to keep one of my RED Ones I get $300, $840 or $1,440 off on a Scarlet. That is free money for being an early adopter.


  • 4. Sensor upgrade: If I want to keep a RED One I can upgrade the sensor for a price and get all the benefits of the Mysterium X. This is major upgrade that no other camera company has ever offered. Depending on the cost of this upgrade the $10k retail trade in for an EPIC may be a better deal. The sensor is the major component of the $17,500 body so I would expect the upgrade to cost a good chunk of that. It is possible that for the price of the upgrade you can get a whole new 5k brain that is compatible with all your current RED One accessories. That is just incredible.

  • 5. Progress: The most important thing to me is that RED make the absolute best and most advanced cameras they can. So many products don't see their full potential because companies have to fully support their legacy products as well. If technology has jumped ahead and the RED One body is no longer the best platform to realize those advances, I fully support putting 100% of your resources into the next generation. I bought into the RED brand because they were clearly dedicated to offering technology on the cutting edge packaged in way that their customers needed. I believe the modularity of the EPIC and Scarlet systems is exactly where this industry needed to go and I feel RED has recognized our support and provided us early adopters with generous and unprecedented upgrade paths.

That is all.
 
Thx Justin, but you're not speaking on behalf of me matey, and many other I've spoken to. R1=beta=obselete. If my Red ever performs properly I won't need an upgrade, as its capable of recording breath taking images, if it doesn't, why wasn't I told a working Red would cost me twice as much? Why no brain upgrade for R1? I get this in build 15/16 and now 17. My loyalty as always is to my investors and clients. I'm sick of explaining to clients the risks with longer shoots.
 
ronx if you ever post images that size again im gonna have the Web Police come down and kick your butt :)

heh heh heh.
 
Ronx, I see the trade in for an EPIC as basically being a RED One brain upgrade. The RED body is useless without accessories and all those accessories will be compatible with the EPIC and Scarlet.

I am sorry you are having problems but all three of my REDs perform flawlessly most of the time.
 
Ronx.. if you post an inline 4k image, it screws up people's browsers. Not cool.

As for the issues you are having, who did you speak to at RED via tech support on this so i can look into it?
 
I totally agree.

I got my RED 3 days ago. I am thrilled beyond belief having my own RED!

next year i will be thrilled having a scarlet (12% off) and either:

A: my beautiful (in its own way) RED 1 as it is now (plus all the new builds - anamorphic today what tomorrow??)

B: my RED 1 with sensor upgrade (fantastic offer, Jim and team)

c: my Brand new EPIC (with a 17500usd rebate- tell me im not dreaming!!!!)

you guys are the best!

did I mention how happy I am? - can any one seriously tell me why I shouldnt be?
 
Obendega said:
Ronx, I see the trade in for an EPIC as basically being a RED One brain upgrade.

I am sorry you are having problems but all three of my REDs perform flawlessly most of the time.
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Most of the time statements like your thread title are highly subjective ass kissing euphoria, but maybe you're right..
 
I am kind of curious on what the percentages are of RED owners who are excited about the new announcements compared to those who are angry at them. Seems like a lot of posters are just assuming that most people feel the way that they do.
 
ronx said:
Thx Justin, but you're not speaking on behalf of me matey, and many other I've spoken to. R1=beta=obselete. If my Red ever performs properly I won't need an upgrade, as its capable of recording breath taking images, if it doesn't, why wasn't I told a working Red would cost me twice as much? Why no brain upgrade for R1? I get this in build 15/16 and now 17. My loyalty as always is to my investors and clients. I'm sick of explaining to clients the risks with longer shoots.
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My RED performs properly?
 
Jarred Land said:
Ronx.. if you post an inline 4k image, it screws up people's browsers. Not cool.

As for the issues you are having, who did you speak to at RED via tech support on this so i can look into it?
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We can't look you up because we don't know the real name behind "RONX" .
 
This is only good news, if you look carefully enough.

Either you are making good money with your Red One and ugrading won't be a problem.

Or you are not making enough money with your Red One and upgrading won't be a necessity.

A bit brutal but quite true.

Emmanuel
 
Names or make RED ONE serial number mandatory so we can quickly help people.

BC
 
Jarred Land said:
time to switch to real names?
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Real names would be great for reduser as it would make for more responsible and curteous posting. You'll notice that those that post with their real names are usually the most helpful posts.
 
All you have to do is start an account with your real name...it's simple. I did it many months ago.

speaking of which, Jarred, can you check your PM...my real name account got de-activated...and I feel like I'm wearing old clothes that do not fit.

Sorry if I'm hijacking. I know you guys are hella busy....
 
ok... this sounds like a good idea.
 
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