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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

January 2016 update

I'd say in daylight balanced light, MX can hold it's own... ...Anywhere else and things get boned very quickly.
 
Dan Kanes said:
My friend has an MX so I might be able to do some tests with a couple of portraits or something over the next two or three weeks.

Whenever I boot up his MX I'm like "damn, that still looks really good."
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I still love the MX sensor. The Dragon was and is very grainy to my eyes. Some people like this because it reminds them of film grain, I personally like a clean image and I never got it from the Dragon sensor.

The Weapon seems to really change this. I played with the display model at the NYC Red Store and was really blown away by how clean the image is. You can really see this in the new 8K video that was just released. Look at the background of the interview in the main shot vs the profile shot which was shot on dragon. You can see the huge difference in grain.
 
Brice Ansel said:
Funny you are mentioning that, because when we upgraded from Epic X to the Epic dragon this is exactly what I did noticed, the creaminess, and this is what I liked about the dragon 6K sensor.BestB.
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I think in controlled experimental situation the dragon and the weapon R3D would be identical. But I normally am not in a controlled situtation and my previous olpf wasn't the new standard. Some of the reasons for the better texture I think are the new mount and light box on the weapon (I don't think this has been discussed much). Also the blackshading seems to give optimal results every time, so I am getting "optimal" black shading on each shot while in the past I wasn't fanatical on blackshading for each situation. I really like the standard OLPF, much better then the previous ones, if I had a dragon epic I'd ponder getting that standard OLPF and I think you'd get a huge benifit. Here's a raw R3D snapshot http://www.puddlesoflight.com/W002_C004.R3D using the weapon and a 35mm master prime anamorphic of the shot:
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All of this being very suggestive of course, when I got the dragon I really suffered from losing all the Red One MX comfort I had managed to get over the years, even the histogram was different... Dragon was a whole new game and although I understand the ups and the advancements in the Dragon sensor technology and resolution etc, and that the Dragon is probably the best sensor out there, the MX was really my first love. I still think I shot some of my best stuff with it! I had ungraded dailies with the MX that were looking like a million bucks! I hope to get this back in a near future, maybe with the weapon!
 
PatrickFaith said:
I think in controlled experimental situation the dragon and the weapon R3D would be identical. But I normally am not in a controlled situtation and my previous olpf wasn't the new standard. Some of the reasons for the better texture I think are the new mount and light box on the weapon (I don't think this has been discussed much). Also the blackshading seems to give optimal results every time, so I am getting "optimal" black shading on each shot while in the past I wasn't fanatical on blackshading for each situation. I really like the standard OLPF, much better then the previous ones, if I had a dragon epic I'd ponder getting that standard OLPF and I think you'd get a huge benifit. Here's a raw R3D snapshotusing the weapon and a 35mm master prime anamorphic of the shot:
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Can you go 6k FF with your 35mm master anamorphic?
 
Brian Anderson said:
Can you go 6k FF with your 35mm master anamorphic?
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Not without putting on an extender. Does 3:2 Anamorphic crop without extender (i.e. 3:1 desquezed). I use the PLx1.4 or PLx2.0 from abelcine if I want full sensor coverage for creating fx practicals and vfx mattes.
 
PatrickFaith said:
Not without putting on an extender. Does 3:2 Anamorphic crop without extender (i.e. 3:1 desquezed). I use the PLx1.4 or PLx2.0 from abelcine if I want full sensor coverage for creating fx practicals and vfx mattes.
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Gotcha, So without an extender whats the highest resolution you can shoot? ..if you don't mind me asking :)
 
I'd say that we are a ways off for Scarlet W's yet. A few weeks at least.

Based on the fact that we aren't even through the Epic M dragon upgrades yet. (At least I haven't received my email yet on an Epic M Dragon)

I bet things will move fast in the next 4 weeks though.

Here's to hoping anyway.
 
Troy Bakewell said:
I'd say that we are a ways off for Scarlet W's yet. A few weeks at least.
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The Red machine is ahead of schedule, and according to Jarred, Scarlet-W could be shipping as soon as 10 days from now (the following post was from Jan 14th).

Jarred Land said:
Scarlet W is 100% ready and standing by... As we promised to our MG customers, Scarlet-W will only begin to ship right after all MG upgrade customers are blasted which means you early Scarlet-W reservations should start getting your cameras in your hands one month from today.
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It was a month away 2 weeks ago remember. At least I think that's what I said ;)
 
Yes thanks for digging that up Nathan. Everything is looking good....
 
Jarred Land said:
It was a month away 2 weeks ago remember. At least I think that's what I said ;)
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I'm counting the days. I have it down to hours and seconds here. ;)

But of course, whenever it's ready, that's fine by me. You guys are ahead of schedule, so you're certainly allowed some slack. I've been patient since Sept 25th, and I'll remain so until I get that highly anticipated (and feared) invoice in my email. lol
 
Nathan DuMoulin said:
I'm counting the days. I have it down to hours and seconds here. ;)

But of course, whenever it's ready, that's fine by me. You guys are ahead of schedule, so you're certainly allowed some slack. I've been patient since Sept 25th, and I'll remain so until I get that highly anticipated (and feared) invoice in my email. lol
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Sorry September 25th you must be talking about Raven since Scarlet-W just was announced just before christmas. I am talking about Scarlet-W, which is 2 weeks away.
 
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