It's lonely in here...

[Gunleik Groven]

Cables on the rear should be a nono on Epic. and all the connectors should have a "bump protective" design, and not stand directly out of the body. That would allow for much more compact setups.

 

[Brook Willard]

We have to admit that we're all shooting blind here anyway... We have no idea what RED is cooking up for accessories or even if this is the ultimate design for EPIC. Look how much the design for the RED One changed in the year leading up to its release.

I think that RED will follow the same path this time around... paying attention to feedback from the folks that will buy and use the products to make the camera the best possible solution. The benefit is that this time around, not only do they have camera building experience... but we all have camera "building" experience as well! Those of us who followed the development of the RED closely and work with the camera every day now have a very strong grasp on how the camera works in the real world. What may have been difficult to tell from a rendering of the RED ONE in the past is now a reality.

Since we don't have to rely on renderings of the EPIC, we can just pretend like we're dreaming of a much-improved version of the RED ONE. All of those little problems that exist on the RED [some that were foreseen and some that weren't] can all be fixed with some proper judgment and openness with the development. It's gonna be a lot of fun. We get to "make" a camera all over again.

...And look how many aspects of it remained un-changed, even at the behest of many reservation holders (like the mini BNC and XLR connectors, no audio pots, etc..).

The good news is that I'm sure RED has learned from the experience. If they listened on the BNCs and XLRs for the Epic, they're bound to listen to the rest of the feedback in the same manner. This time around we don't have to wait for the camera to come out to find out if we were right or wrong with our recommendations... because we can garner so much from the design of the RED ONE.

People kind of stopped giving feedback on the body design of the RED ONE after it got "locked in" by shipping. Sure a few little things changed [and a few really big ones with the X bodies], but the general design of the camera is the same. Now that the doors for feedback are open again by revealing another camera in open development, there's a lot of room to get all of our ideas out. Let the floodgates open once more.

 

[Jarred Land]

The benefit is that this time around, not only do they have camera experience...

heh heh heh. please tell me you meant to add a "building" infront of camera there Brook.. its pretty offensive to Jim if you meant what it was written like.

Regardless.. yes we do listen, and the feedback, as long as it doesn't turn to yelling, is always welcome.

 

[Meryem Ersoz]

Is there any hope for a couple of audio pots this time around?

I know we're all "supposed" to be recording double system, but I'm not taking a sound guy along to shoot sports and wildlife, but would still like to capture some reasonably effective ambient sound along with my footy...without having to add a breakout box that adds weight and awkwardness to the system to achieve something relatively simple...

 

[Brook Willard]

heh heh heh. please tell me you meant to add a "building" infront of camera there Brook.. its pretty offensive to Jim if you meant what it was written like.

Regardless.. yes we do listen, and the feedback, as long as it doesn't turn to yelling, is always welcome.

Wow, yeah, I 100% meant camera "building" experience. I'll edit it to clarify. I wrote that post after an 18hr day and missed a few key words.

No offense, Jim... total typo.

 

[Steve Freebairn]

I think that RED will follow the same path this time around... paying attention to feedback from the folks that will buy and use the products to make the camera the best possible solution.

It seems like a good idea to take some kind of additional deposit from Red One owners that are planning on moving up to the Epic, that way our voices can be heard. Of course, Red needs to listen to people who don't own a Red one, but I think that a deposit is a quick way to separate those that are serious from those that are not.

 

[Johnbutler]

I would suggest, as something that would be very important for justifying the price point, a mechanical shutter over the cmos. Rolling sutter will always have some sort of result on the final image, why not really put the value in that 40k. You would have a huge advantage over competitors. Maybe it could also utilize a miraculous debayering process that leaves almost all the detail intact, or something of a similar nature. I'd like to see the results of a camera like that.

 

[Matthew Lochman]

I am very interested in seeing what this camera will have to justify the additional $22,500. Obviously the bigger connectors, lunch box body, and new sensor won't be the end all be all... Otherwise the Mysterium X's upgrade path for the RED ONE will be $22,000!!!