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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Iso 4000

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wshultz said:
Finner, my years have caused me to gain enough wisdom to have taught me that very rarely will someone thank you for unsolicited advice--whether it is meant to "save" them or not. Probably could have written a brief refresher in fewer words.
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Rather then fewer words I think smaller 1 syllable words would be the better choice in this instance.
 
wshultz said:
Finner, my years have caused me to gain enough wisdom to have taught me that very rarely will someone thank you for unsolicited advice--whether it is meant to "save" them or not. Probably could have written a brief refresher in fewer words.
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Oh guv, Don't be so 'ard on me mate. That's just Finner bein' Finner... That is to say... ee's not a fiver nor a tenner... 'ees just a Finner!
 
Number6, ISO/ASA is a measure of sensitivity or the "speed" of a film stock or the speed at which a sensor can acquire an image. ISO/ASA 4000 thousand is like really really hyper-sensitive. Fast or sensitive ISO numbers (big numbers) are good for shooting in low light. It's going to make you happy because you can shoot raccoons humping in the bushes by moonlight. Finner is trying to save you... I'm trying to help you achieve your dream of torching your house. Let me know when that's going to happen! I'll have my RED on hand for that and I'll bring the marshmallows, dude.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Number6, ISO/ASA is a measure of sensitivity or the "speed" of a film stock or the speed at which a sensor can acquire an image. ISO/ASA 4000 thousand is like really really hyper-sensitive. Fast or sensitive ISO numbers (big numbers) are good for shooting in low light. It's going to make you happy because you can shoot raccoons humping in the bushes by moonlight. Finner is trying to save you... I'm trying to help you achieve your dream of torching your house. Let me know when that's going to happen! I'll have my RED on hand for that and I'll bring the marshmallows, dude.
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Poor racoons can't get no privacy. But fewer racoons will be a good thing. I must have missed something on the house torching.
 
...unbelievable....

I mean, I'm using that out of shock, I don't really mean it is not believable, as in you're lying. :)

To me, this is one of the most exciting things about this camera! (and its got a lot of competition)
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Number6, ISO/ASA is a measure of sensitivity or the "speed" of a film stock or the speed at which a sensor can acquire an image. ISO/ASA 4000 thousand is like really really hyper-sensitive. Fast or sensitive ISO numbers (big numbers) are good for shooting in low light. It's going to make you happy because you can shoot raccoons humping in the bushes by moonlight. Finner is trying to save you... I'm trying to help you achieve your dream of torching your house. Let me know when that's going to happen! I'll have my RED on hand for that and I'll bring the marshmallows, dude.
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Will send all RED ouners a personal invite to the party. We'll shoot the explosion from so many angles that one of them will have to be right. I'm also looking for actors to play a couple of parts... one will be a parachutist with a poorly packed chute in freefall, and the other will be a rugged individual who will be willing to ride atop an explosion. When they meet, the free-falling parachutist will ask the rising individual if he knows anything about parachutes, and the rising individual will answer no, and ask if the falling parachutist knows anything about butane stoves?

It's an old joke so I probably won't use it.
 
Oh geez... 4,000 ASA? I just got off a day of juicing for 100 ASA, it was a nightmare. I can't even believe that 4,000 is remotely usable. That's stunning.
 
number6, looking back on my own journey, I am so phenomenally glad that 3 years ago I purchased a professional DSLR and learned it well. It has prepared me really well for Red, in ways that I would not have otherwise received by not coming from a film background. A DSLR taught me all about ISO, focal lengths, what the mm in the lenses means, etc. You have several months, I strongly recommend immediately purchasing a DSLR and learning it inside and out. Red is really just a big DSLR that can go at fast continuous FPS.
 
So, at ISO 4000 how much noise are we talking about? I mean does it look like a 1 to 2 stop push or is it more like 3 or 4 stops? I agree usable at ISO 4000 is amazing but can we can expect good, I mean really decent performance at an 800 - 1000 equivalent? Anything on the far side of 500 exceedes my expectations (and puts a big smile on my face at the same time).

Very exciting!
 
In addition to what Jeff said, most digital cameras are rated at ISO 320, and
as the ISO number doubles up, you can achieve the same intensity of light
with half amount of light. Which means, you could achieve the same lighting
effect for ISO 320 with about a quarter amount of light if you were shooting
with ISO 4000.

Edit: My math was poorly done. As matter of fact, it should be a bit less than
1/8 amount of light.
 
what the !!!

my light meter don't do iso 8000 or for that matter 4000 !!
any chance of a RED meter ?
 
wshultz said:
Poor racoons can't get no privacy. But fewer racoons will be a good thing. I must have missed something on the house torching.
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Sorry, I was cross-referencing what number6 said in another thread. He plans to shoot a feature film or two and blow up his house in the process. I'm not sure if he's really serious.

But I should also say that my post was probably a bit out of line. I would remove it, but I see people are already referencing it. So that was a job well done by your friendly moderator. :blush: Whooops. number6 seems to be OK with it though.
 
Mardi_Gras said:
Gee! this has got to be some of the most ignorant rants I've read on this forum. Why so personal on a general question. Let's refrain from personal attacks, please. Just don't respond if you don't have an answer, simple!
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Quite judgemental Marti_Gras. You don't know me man you don't know my life!
 
This IS stunning. T3 RED zooms and the Mysterium sensor combination may redefine what we consider "fast". All of our lighting packages just got a little brighter...


OT...
Shawn Nelson said:
number6, looking back on my own journey, I am so phenomenally glad that 3 years ago I purchased a professional DSLR and learned it well. It has prepared me really well for Red, in ways that I would not have otherwise received by not coming from a film background. A DSLR taught me all about ISO, focal lengths, what the mm in the lenses means, etc. You have several months, I strongly recommend immediately purchasing a DSLR and learning it inside and out. Red is really just a big DSLR that can go at fast continuous FPS.
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Great advice... and be sure to shoot RAW.

Cheers and good luck,

Andrew
 
Okay, my reason to be excited.

Okay, my reason to be excited.

Hi Jim,
I'm very excited when you said it was very usable at ISO 4000, because
that also means it would be prestine at ISO 1000 - 2000 range. That is
good enough for me to shoot with. I was happy to shoot my current project
at ISO 400 after shooting a project at ISO 80. I can't even imagine shooting
at that high ISO. Now, how am I going to cut the ambient light? :glare:
 
Shawn Nelson said:
number6, looking back on my own journey, I am so phenomenally glad that 3 years ago I purchased a professional DSLR and learned it well. It has prepared me really well for Red, in ways that I would not have otherwise received by not coming from a film background. A DSLR taught me all about ISO, focal lengths, what the mm in the lenses means, etc. You have several months, I strongly recommend immediately purchasing a DSLR and learning it inside and out. Red is really just a big DSLR that can go at fast continuous FPS.
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C'mon all you Argentinas... don't cry for me. I'm not some tin man runnin' around lookin' for a brain. I've got one. It was a really good one at one time and I THINK I stopped drinkin' in time so all the creamy white fillin' hasn't been licked away. I know you all mean well... (maybe not Finner, he just means) but I WILL be able to figure this out. My strength will be that I will get the 8 ball in the hole. Maybe it will appear to be a lucky shot, but it will still go in the hole. If not, I will return to this forum and pronounce to all that "I am not smarter than a fifth grader!"

But on the other hand, Shawn, thanks for your genuine concern and for most people, sound advice. For me though, it would be taking a step backward, and I cannot abide retreat.
 
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