In-camera batteries

[Christoffer Glans]

So this has been an issue for a while with earlier DSMC1 and 2 and its the internal battery of the camera draining to zero and causing a loss in settings information and risk of total depletion with a need to send in the camera to change the internal battery for a pretty high cost.

What is the status on the internal batteries used in Komodo? Will they be easily replaceable or is there a better solution to all of this already implemented? It feels like it's a waste if there hasn't been any improvements on this over previous cameras.

 

[Joesef o.]

It looks like theres a little compartment door on the bottom of the camera, I wonder if thats to access it

 

[Christoffer Glans]

It looks like theres a little compartment door on the bottom of the camera, I wonder if thats to access it

No, that's, by my understanding, the connector for the bottom plate options.

 

[Glen Powell]

I've asked this question a couple times - but have never seen a response.

At this point I'm pretty adept at changing the internal batteries on my DSCMC1 cameras... But it sure would be nice to not have to do this moving forward.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I think they moved to a rechargeable internal on the current crop of DSMC2 and weapons upgraded to the newer internals (Helium/ Monstro)?

 

[Christoffer Glans]

I think they moved to a rechargeable internal on the current crop of DSMC2 and weapons upgraded to the newer internals (Helium/ Monstro)?

What are the new internals? So far I've only heard that all Red cameras have these bad internal batteries that require you to keep your camera running over the course of time, otherwise you risk the life of the battery.

The question is what's used in Komodo and if it's gonna be the same thing all over? The internal battery thing has been such a headache for so many people that some solution needs to be made. At least let the internal battery not drain when the camera is off, just like any electronic gear that need storage for settings etc. I'm not sure why Red cameras even drain power from them when they are completely off and there have never been any real answers to these questions.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Just like the CMOS battery in a PC. It maintains the internal clock and base settings for the camera. I'm pretty sure that current models, and presumably Komodo, are using a rechargeable battery. So it tops itself off when the camera has power. Yes, I know we're asking about Komodo here and it would be nice to know the answer.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

How does the built in battery charge? Never had instructions of about any built in batterys.

 

[Christopher A. Bell]

How does the built in battery charge? Never had instructions of about any built in batterys.

If it works like the Canon C300 that had that type of system, it's all automatic when power is applied to the camera. No user intervention/real thought required and it would keep its charge for several months at a time(when fully charged) with no external power.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

I jave not used one of my cameras in a long time. Hope its not a problem...Sounds like this sort of thing should be written on the front of the manual! Do you have to power up the camera or is it enough to just put on a battery?

 

[Andi Loor]

It is not rechargeable in an Epic, it is likely that one day the battery drains, and it is a fiddly issue to replace it. You would have to either leave it to service or risk damage to the camera. There is a youtube video of how it is done. https://youtu.be/KpjSaE8XHEw
When the battery drains the camera will reset it's internal clock and every time you restart the camera it will begin from 0.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

I have never experienced it, but it does not sound fun. So dmsc1 you cant affect the lifetime of the battery. It just die one day?
And dsmc2 you do what? Leave the battery on when not shooting.... what is the recommended practice to recharge it?

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Did some digging... DSMC2 cameras have the rechargeable internal. It trickle charges when the camera is powered on. If by chance it goes dead, best practice is to connect camera to power and turn it on, let it run for a while. Could take 24 hours or more for the internal battery to fully top up. But should be good enough within a couple hours that it should maintain itself and continue to charge just fine if the camera is then used regularly. RED tech support has recommended to people to power up the camera and leave it that way for 30 hours to guarantee the internal is charged all the way.

RED One, EPIC/ Scarlet DSMC1 do not have a rechargeable internal battery, but use a button battery. It seems EPIC-W and Scarlet-W cameras also use the button battery.

Dead internal batteries happen most often with cameras that sit unused for long periods of time. Of course there is always a chance of other failures, which could drain the battery.

I personally have not dealt with this on any of the REDs I have owned, so can only report what I've been able to dig up.

No concrete info on Komodo yet.

 

[Björn Benckert]

The recharge function on DSMC2 works quite well no? I assume komodo has the same functionality or better.

 

[Christoffer Glans]

RED One, EPIC/ Scarlet DSMC1 do not have a rechargeable internal battery, but use a button battery. It seems EPIC-W and Scarlet-W cameras also use the button battery.

But Red cameras seem to drain a lot more than any other technology I used which have internal memory for settings. How can the camera draw so much power in shut down mode? Not using the camera for a month is enough for it to deplete.

 

[Björn Benckert]

But Red cameras seem to drain a lot more than any other technology I used which have internal memory for settings. How can the camera draw so much power in shut down mode? Not using the camera for a month is enough for it to deplete.

My monstro never had a problem and it been on the shelf for more than a month at times.

Likely komodo works all different if it gets 3 hours out of 2 little canon batteries it must have a completely different power management. Likely more like the canon cameras. So again I think the internal battery is not much to worry about on komodo. Problem was pretty much fixed on the later DSMC2 iterations.

 

[Christoffer Glans]

My monstro never had a problem and it been on the shelf for more than a month at times.

Likely komodo works all different if it gets 3 hours out of 2 little canon batteries it must have a completely different power management. Likely more like the canon cameras. So again I think the internal battery is not much to worry about on komodo. Problem was pretty much fixed on the later DSMC2 iterations.

At least let the cameras charge with a power adapter, right? I seem to not be able to charge my Weapon 6K with the adapter, but need to let the camera run with V-lock batteries on and keep charging etc. so I can't charge it "over night" or something like that. Komodo seriously need to be able to charge internal batteries with power adapters.

 

[Björn Benckert]

Again the whole issue is something of the past as I understand. DSM1 and early DSMC2 had batteries that ran out. Later DSM2 does not or at least it seams like they charge from from being turned on / have a battery on the back, komodo likely does the same.

The power drain when turned off that red cameras has / battery goes flat over time if it sits on the camera. I dont know if its the same for komodo but likely not. But if even so its not a big problem if you know about it. And likely the Canon batteries are way better than Vlock batteris in terms of being overly drained and then not take charge etc. I never had a canon battery go south, Vlocks batteries and chargers on the other hand, I seen problems with all of them.