HOW do I "remove" an ALTERED clip from APP CS6 and Save it OUTSIDE the Program ??

[George D.]

HOW do I "remove" an ALTERED clip from APP CS6 and Save it OUTSIDE the Program ??


Once an effect, derived from APP CS6 itself, or a plug-in to that program, like color, saturation, or line removal, is done, is there a way to SAVE that altered clip "by itself" and put it as it's own separate file in the computer hard drive to save for later?

In other words, what I want to do, is take a clip that I have altered in Adobe Premiere Pro CS6, and remove or copy it OUT of the program and file it away for later use in editing. I want to export it as a R3D file. ???

Please explain the steps I need to take to achieve that.

Any and all help, is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

George

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[Ben Scott]

just make a sequence of just that clip, alter it then export it as dnxhd, pro res or whatever.

 

[George D.]

just make a sequence of just that clip, alter it then export it as dnxhd, pro res or whatever.

There is no dnxhd in CS6 exports.

I'm trying Quicktime at the moment. But, even that is not what I want.

I want to export it as a 4K HD R3D file.

Is that possible, and if so, HOW ??

Thanks,

George

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[Todd T]

Unfortunately, it is not possible to export .R3D files from Adobe software or anyone else.

 

[Mikael Lubtchansky]

Yes as Todd said it is just not possible to modify and re-save a clip as an R3D.
As of today ONLY the camera can write an R3D file, the only exception being RCX that can trim a clip and re-save a smaller R3D but there is no image manipulation involved in simple trim.
You need your altered clip to be rendered at 4K and saved in a high quality codec like ProRES 444, uncompressed 10bit...

 

[George D.]

Yes as Todd said it is just not possible to modify and re-save a clip as an R3D.
As of today ONLY the camera can write an R3D file, the only exception being RCX that can trim a clip and re-save a smaller R3D but there is no image manipulation involved in simple trim.
You need your altered clip to be rendered at 4K and saved in a high quality codec like ProRES 444, uncompressed 10bit...

I'm truly sorry, but I am very ignorant when it comes to computer programs. I am learning as fast as I can.

That said, I understand now that I can't have an altered R3D file, but I do want the highest quality I can get. Yet I don't see any options for what you call "ProRES 444, uncompressed 10bit" .

Would someone be kind enough to explain that further?

Thanks,

George

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[Andy White]

Just save an image sequence (maybe DPX, TIFF or TGA - as you want an uncompressed or high quality image, not a jpeg) - I'm presuming this is linked to the other thread about spot removal?

Or, save as a sequence, in which case you want an uncompressed format. BTW, you might not have Prores in your system (especially if you're PC and 64bit), so maybe explore some sequence export options - select avi then see what options you get. Be prepared that uncompressed will be pretty large, but you'll have the best image quality.

 

[ericyoung]

If you need to export DNxHD or ProRes you need to get those codecs on your computer. You can install trial versions of Avid MC or Final Cut Pro to obtain those. But both of those are compressed baked in formats, albeit high quality ones at the lowest compressions.

If you are trying to preserve R3D quality & gradability, then you should use an offline/online conform workflow going back to the R3Ds for the final grade. Then it doesn't really matter if your offline isn't the highest quality DNxHD/ProRes.

 

[George D.]

If you need to export DNxHD or ProRes you need to get those codecs on your computer. You can install trial versions of Avid MC or Final Cut Pro to obtain those. But both of those are compressed baked in formats, albeit high quality ones at the lowest compressions.

If you are trying to preserve R3D quality & gradability, then you should use an offline/online conform workflow going back to the R3Ds for the final grade. Then it doesn't really matter if your offline isn't the highest quality DNxHD/ProRes.

Thanks Eric,

I appreciate the help, but you're way over my head. "...you should use an offline/online conform workflow...". I don't even know what you mean by that.

Thanks anyway,

George

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[Craig Parkes]

Hi George, it works like this. You need to either be working on a computer that can read and export the highest quality format that is practical, one that is set up with the correct software and codecs to export a high quality version that loses the least information without being ridiculously big, or you need to be working in an environment where you just do your edit on a machine that has not been set up for this in software or hardware and later on take it to someone in another suite setup for this process takes your project and does everything correctly to get the highest quality master.

That's the principle behind offline and online workflow, which started when most computers didn't have the processing power to practically work with the best quality footage.

Now that many computers can work with best quality footage, you can effectively work Online the whole way through, but you still need to setup your computer to be able to export the appropriate video file type for your workflow. You do this by installing a codec - that will tell your computer how to write that file. Or you export an image sequence in the highest quality thst is practical. This saves each frame as an individual file, a 16bit TIFF sequence generally being the highest quality format, but this will be about 50 megabytes per frame at 4K so very difficult to work with in realtime on your average computer. Which is why we use codecs, that have suitable compression. The two best codecs for you will be either Prores or DNxHD. DNxHD is freely available for quicktime pro on both the windows and Mac platforms. Prores is available with an install of Final Cut on the Mac platform, or there are now some third party options for PC you can install.

If the above isn't explicit enough for you my advice is hire an editor in your lical area who knows what they are doing to work on your project and give you pointers, or get online training. The devil with this stuff is in the details and the gap between your kmowledge in this area and what you want to achieve is too big to resolve with forum posts alone.