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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

History...

Meryem Ersoz said:
some humorous contributions to the History - digging back a little further...

Jim annoyed with Sony's failure to add 24p to their HDV line... http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/panason...orders/51044-hvx200-vs-z1-fx1-simple-guy.html

Jarred talking about how investing in his DVX100 instead of a GL2 "changed his life" (little did he know the train that was coming...): http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/panasonic-dvx-dvc-assistant/15710-all-about-buy-gl2.html#post111248

if you dig even further in those archives, you can find threads where Jarred debates the relative merits of the GL2 v. DVC80 -

and this is a really good early interview with Ted, because it captures some of the energy of those early days...

http://kino-eye.com/2006/04/27/ted-at-red/

My first encounter with RED was watching the project develop, from an interested geeky bystander position. Like everyone else caught up in watching the project develop, I shared the frustration with the trickleware business model. But the price for a RED camera seemed out of my reach. But when the Milk Girls footage posted, I couldn't stop looking at the texture of the images. And when I added up all of my camera upgrades and realized it was over $11,000 in four years, suddenly that $17,500 for a single camera didn't feel like that much of a stretch. I realized that I needed to change my perception.

What was the worst that could happen? It was a $1000 deposit with a 110% guaranteed refund.

The thinking was a little naive, but sometimes ignorance is bliss. Little did I know that when you board the RED train, you get on a fast track.
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LOL, I was the first one that replied to Jim's post. I cannot believe I "defended" Sony right there :), mainly on the use of tape . Funny thing is, I was a DVX owner back then and was a bit annoyed with how expensive the media for the then to be released HVX (which was what I really wanted) was (early P2 days). However, I never bought a Z1 and bought the HVX as soon as it came out here. I believe I was the first person in Macau to actually own one. I owned a DVX100, which I regret to this day having sold to buy a DVX100a (I still say the dvx100a had inferior chips to the original one- it was way noisier), which I later sold after having the HVX200. The HVX200 I am planning to keep and never sell. It was the camera which I shot my first international broadcasted TVC and my first released short film. The other camera I keep is... the Sony TRV900. My first ever camera, the one which I shot my first Doc and my first admitedly terrible short films.

Now, looking ahead, I plan to shoot my first award winning short/feature with the Epic-S, or whatever it will be called :) . Bring it on, Jim, Jarred and the Red Team. You know how we feel, or how you felt back then. Give us a chance to show what we can do! :)
 
Justin O'Neill said:
Wow, I had no idea Jim was a prolific camera forum poster before RED! Seems like most people had no idea who they were talking to. The wonder of the internet...a forum poster just asking for the obvious from the big corporations, and two years later delivers a camera that kills their top of the line F900. 5 years later they can't even get one of their own cameras on a tent pole their own studio is producing (Spider-man).
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And as you probably already know, Sony Pictures is using the EPIC on not only Spiderman, but the majority of 2012's releases:

-The Amazing Spiderman
-Total Recall
-I Hate You, Dad
EDIT: Plus -Think Like a Man
 
Joseph Hutson said:
And as you probably already know, Sony Pictures is using the EPIC on not only Spiderman, the majority of 2012's releases:

-The Amazing Spiderman
-Total Recall
-I Hate You, Dad
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I wonder what would have happened if they had seen Jim's forum post and listened.

Personally I don't think anyone but Jim and the team he has put together could have created the RED One and Epic though. A privately held company led by a visionary like him is a powerful thing indeed.
 
Bob Gundu said:
Wow, how fitting! I will always have a spot in my heart for the DVX100. I still look at my old work on that camera and it blows my away at times. Serious Mojo with that one. I'll miss you buddy!
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Bob, your first HVX shorts/tests also sold the HVX for me :) amazing stuff.
 
Sergio Perez said:
LOL, I was the first one that replied to Jim's post. I cannot believe I "defended" Sony right there :), mainly on the use of tape .
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yeah, and I was flippantly daring Jim to sell one of his Z1Us to me at a discount...

the point is, that Jim and Jarred are always insisting that they're customers "just like us" - and I thought these links to them forum-bashing back in the bad old days, just like us, were an interesting return to those roots...some proof that they mean it when they say it. not that we needed proof!

the EOL of the DVX100 at the same time as the shipping of the EPIC-X is a remarkable coincidence.

that camera was quite an upstart and seems to have outlasted most of its generation. Jarred had remarkable vision, if you think about it, to build a forum around something something revolutionary, a camera with a destiny.

not much has changed. everything has changed.
 
The DVX100a was the first camera I bought for myself back in 2004. That camera changed the industry with 24p just like the R1 did with 4K. I still have that camera sitting in my home office here. It's collecting dust unfortunately, the video heads are worn on them and no one in Austin fixes them it seems. Oh well. I miss using that cam. Easy to operate and I loved the ergonomics of it.
 
This is a great step down memory lane. I remember that HD for Indies post being a very exciting turning point for me... finally someone was going to make it happen. Been on board since that first NAB and haven't regretted it.
 
This could be also a part of (my) RED History:

By chance I met Mr.Tremblay, the father of RED camera designer Matthew Tremblay and it was in September 2008, Belvedere Gardens in Vienna.

And i was like this: Mr.Tremblay first saw my RED from far away then approached to me and asked a question.

Mr.Tremblay: "Is it a RED camera?"

I replied: "Yes, it is!!!"

Then Mr.Tremblay turned around the tripod with RED camera on and asked me: "Do you like it?"

I said: "Yes, like it very much and it's a perfect camera for me!"

And then we introduced each other when he said that he is the father of RED camera designer Matt. the we both exchanged photos with my RED camera.

I'm pretty sure that he was a bit surprised with my super-lightweight RED rig and also a tiny lens.

It was Voigtländer 12 mm F5,6 UltraWide Heliar lens on Leica M mount for RED ONE M.

That was a really great day for me and my RED I'll never forget.

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Mr.Tremblay, the father of RED camera designer Matthew Tremblay with my RED 1 #694 in Belvedere Gardens, Vienna, September 2008.

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Mr.Tremblay, the father of RED camera designer Matthew Tremblay with my RED 1 #694 in Belvedere Gardens, Vienna, September 2008.
 
When George Lucas shot 1080P on a major league feature, I was convinced that the industry would try to convince everyone that 1080P was "good enough".

Jim[/QUOTE]

Jim,

Did you ever have any discussions with Lucas or James Cameron concerning RED? They also have been significant in their own way embracing digital cinema. Just wondering if your paths ever crossed and what the big boys talk about. I was very impressed, but not surprised that Cameron bought in because he was also working on a camera system.

Mike
 
Not worthy of being listed, because they certainly weren't high points, but what ever happened with the stolen R1 prototype(s), and then more recently the first shipped Epic-M? In both cases, were the perpetrators ever caught/cameras ever recovered? Did these turn out to be industrial espionage, or just run-of-the-mill criminals? Both circumstances seemed remarkable.
 
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