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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

HDRx footage...

beside the HDR i could see no skew, thats as terrific as the HDR.

which gamma and color space was used?
some of the new ones?

ps: the guy in the white shirt looks like he saw T1000...hehe
 
Cüneyt Kaya said:
beside the HDR i could see no skew, thats as terrific as the HDR.

which gamma and color space was used?
some of the new ones?

ps: the guy in the white shirt looks like he saw T1000...hehe
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REDcolor2 and REDgamma2.

Trust me when I say the lighting in there was difficult. Every color temperature known to man was blinking...

Jim
 
Looking forward to a more challenging test. Groom in black tux, bride in satin white in bright sun, getting into a limo with black interior and darkened windows, etc. Or a challenging landscape. Or a dark indoor scene with details showing in a window.

Vegas strip at night is like a giant softbox. Makes the already flat look of ungraded HDR look even more flat. Now if I could have seen some stars or even the moon in the night sky above the palm trees on the right I really would have been wowed.

But seriously, there's a lot to play with in grading there, and that, to me, is the key. Folks who are asking for side by side comparisons with non-hdr would likely be disappointed. The HDR footage looks flat on a computer screen, but it really takes grading of some sort to make it shine. Other disappointed folks are probably those who think overbaked tonemapping = HDR. It's not, though it is one way to process [ruin] HDR.

I like the blur panning in this mode. I actually think the "comet with tail" lights look more like rear curtain strobe with stills, not to mention more real and more revealing of detail.

I'm gonna give up trying to figure out how you do this at least for a while. It was an interesting way to pass the time waiting for footage, but the footage is here. And it obviously works. And besides that, every time Jim reveals a new detail I need to trash all of my old ideas.

Now I'd like my Scarlet Fixed, please. I think all of us are fine with the plan to release the HDR feature when it's ready - a month to even a year after the cameras are actually released. And if it's never released for Scarlet Fixed (which I doubt) I will still be happy.
 
No matter what we post someone will want something else. We have extensive testing planned and lots to do to tweak the code. We'll post when we can because it seems to make everyone happy. :-)

I have to say that I really like Magic Motion the more I play with it. It is subtle when you watch playback, but is really cool.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
No matter what we post someone will want something else. We have extensive testing planned and lots to do to tweak the code. We'll post when we can because it seems to make everyone happy. :-)

I have to say that I really like Magic Motion the more I play with it. It is subtle when you watch playback, but is really cool.
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Look forward to that Jim.

BTW "subtle" and "cool" aren't two words you often see together in relation to HDR, so that's a good thing too:)
 
Steve Wake said:
I like the blur panning in this mode. I actually think the "comet with tail" lights look more like rear curtain strobe with stills, not to mention more real and more revealing of detail. .
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Im glad you like the Magic Motion. So do we.
 
Jannard said:
No matter what we post someone will want something else. We have extensive testing planned and lots to do to tweak the code. We'll post when we can because it seems to make everyone happy. :-)...
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Thank you Jim for the tests that you do share, I mean it's unbelievable how much access and insight we have on the R&D process. Anyone know what Apple has planned for the MacPro?? What about Canon future products? Sony? Reds approach has been a breath of fresh air and long may it continue.

:emote_popcorn:

All the best,
 
Jannard said:
REDcolor2 and REDgamma2.

Trust me when I say the lighting in there was difficult. Every color temperature known to man was blinking...

Jim
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Nice choice of subject matter for the demo. Amazing achievement.

The value range is very like the live experience there if the contrast was punched just a tad. Color rendition on all of those light sources is phenomenal.
 
Tom Gough said:
Thank you Jim for the tests that you do share, I mean it's unbelievable how much access and insight we have on the R&D process. Anyone know what Apple has planned for the MacPro?? What about Canon future products? Sony? Reds approach has been a breath of fresh air and long may it continue.

:emote_popcorn:

All the best,
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Unfortunately, some people have to be jerks and complain that RED is talking about the development throughout the whole process and demanding the camera to be released immediately. Who does RED owe? Surely nobody, so why not appreciate the inside look which is given...
 
Joseph Hutson said:
If so, how would the Scarlet differ? It's all in the data rates in which the computer in the camera can process. Unfortunately, this most likely will mean Scarlet won't see it.
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i'm pretty sure it will, perhaps just not at a high redcode
 
Fascinating

Fascinating

Very cool effect. Thinking out loud here: As someone has already commented, it's like a first-curtain strobe sync, both in look and presumably in principle. It seems clear from this that the sensor is being read twice during the exposure. Not two separate exposures, but once a fraction of the way into it, before the highlight clipping and motion blur occur, and then once again at the end of the full exposure.

The really fascinating part is that with this method, the initial blurless lights would be darker and the motion blur streaks would be brighter or even blown out. Apparently Graeme's magic pixies take the non-clipped information from the first fraction of the exposure, before the "light bucket" overflows, then use that to fill in the blown-out streaks, after dimming it down to make the blur look right. All of which sounds to me like a ridiculous amount of real-time processing.

Very impressive! Here's hoping it can be crammed into Scarlet. If not, I'll just have to make sure I earn enough with Scarlet to upgrade soon!
 
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