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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

HDRx footage...

EastHDR shows the result in the monitor path. HDRx does not.

Jim
 
EastHDR shows the result in the monitor path. HDRx™ does not.

Jim

Great to know. Hdrx will be kind of like shooting film in that you might have to use a light meter and know what the result will be after it is "developed." Seems like testing the motion artifacts or lack thereof will be a vital part of understanding hdrx before shooting since you can't see the results in the monitoring path. Nice to have the option of using or not using the x track in case you miscalculate any aspect of this.
 
It certainly depends on where and when you’re using it, but it seems like it should be easy enough to use Easy HDR to check on a monitor, then shoot in HDRx.
 
So Jim..since Epic is still in development. Can you give a solution where HDRx can be preview during shoot and can be also adjusted later in post ? Please consider this

I suspect people will ask this in the future

Rivai
 
Dynamic range from 16mm camera

Dynamic range from 16mm camera

Here's a still pulled from Richard Linklater's Slacker, shot on 16mm film. Not bad dynamic range for 16mm, yes?, unless filters were used over the door. Thoughts anyone?

dr.jpg
 
Here's a still pulled from Richard Linklater's Slacker, shot on 16mm film. Not bad dynamic range for 16mm, yes?, unless filters were used over the door. Thoughts anyone?

Think it was just a really overcast day; no hard shadows that I can see anywhere.
 
Could be that Easy HDR is something very close to exposure fusion that is easy to get out of R3D files

and HDRx could be something that involve a post path with Magic Motion included.

Let me now illustrate my idea about Easy HDR using exposure fusion with these three examples below that I've shot with new Nikon 28-300 G FX yesterday:

EsHDRorg.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Original image exposure level.

EsHDRexoposureplus3.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Exposure + 3 done in any capable app.

EsHDRexposurefusion.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Exposure fusion done in any HDR capable app.
 
From what I can tell, that scene (from Slacker) was shot in early morning - at least this is what I infer from the context of the scene...
 
It certainly depends on where and when you’re using it, but it seems like it should be easy enough to use Easy HDR to check on a monitor, then shoot in HDRx™.
Hope someone who knows will confirm or deny this.
 
Sanjin:

How are these ultimately different than using the raw file and just increasing exposure and tweaking other parameters in redcine or Photoshop?

That's the whole point of raw, you have ALL of the sensor information POSSIBLE at that exposure - how you use it is up to the processing. In my mind the only way to improve - since once you reach a saturation point on a photosite additional photons are ignored - would be to let it go to a level and then reset and start over. And it seems to me that HDRx™™™™ is some method of doing that, so they actually do have more info than the single raw file which can't be true with just the single raw info from r1 or anything else. In other words IT IS A LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY TO HAVE MORE THAN ALL.

Could be that Easy HDR is something very close to exposure fusion that is easy to get out of R3D files

Let me now illustrate my idea about Easy HDR using exposure fusion with these three examples below that I've shot with new Nikon 28-300 G FX yesterday:

EsHDRorg.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Original image exposure level.

EsHDRexoposureplus3.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Exposure + 3 done in any capable app.

EsHDRexposurefusion.jpg

Tree-lined allee in the Vienna Prater: Exposure fusion done in any HDR capable app.
 
Sanjin, again, what's your point? You have a nice image (the original exposure) and you mixed it with the same image with a boosted exposure to create an ugly overexposed image. If you wanted to pull the shadows up a bit, you could have just use the curves/levels tool in your RAW processor. At this point I think you just like showing off.

This is off-topic, but just my 2¢: do less (or no) edge enhancement (lessen or remove sharpening in the post-processing) and when you Save for Web, up the quality considerably—CS5 does an excellent job of keep file size down so there's no reason for a perceptual drop in quality. That first shot is nice, but all the photos you've posted here seem to suffer from compression artifacts and over-enhancement. That's just my opinion, though, and I probably shouldn't be giving it as these photos don't belong here anyway.
 
EasyHDR shows the result in the monitor path. HDRx does not.

Jim

so could you just monitor the x-track to see what the highlights are doing?
or maybe with the proIO module view the x-track and the normal image on two different displays at the same time?
 
so could you just monitor the x-track to see what the highlights are doing?
or maybe with the proIO module view the x-track and the normal image on two different displays at the same time?

Doubt it. EasyHDR™ has been described as having the effect “baked” in, meaning you can’t separate the x track from it, nor do you get a choice in motion blur, MM is it… so if that’s going out to a monitor its going to be WYSIWYG.
 
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