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Fos Sale Panavision cookes 6 lens Set

Ok welcome to REDUSER MYTHBUSTERS......footage coming in about 10 mins......:usd:
 
sounds good. by the way.. very wrong of you to come in here straight lying about me making an offer on your lenses. not that it even matters..but shows how you are. my question was simple..and all you had to do was simply answer it.

by the way.. 18mm cooke panchro vignetting is not a myth. and i never suggested that your panavised set did, which is why I simply asked you if it did or not.

so in fact..no mythbusting really...just clarification.

It would just be so sad if some buyer bought lenses only to find out they have a vignetting problem after he has already paid for them. If they don't vignette..thats awesome..and that set will go to a good home.
 
tonaci said:
sounds good. by the way.. very wrong of you to come in here straight lying about me making an offer on your lenses. not that it even matters..but shows how you are. my question was simple..and all you had to do was simply answer it.

by the way.. 18mm cooke panchro vignetting is not a myth. and i never suggested that your panavised set did, which is why I simply asked you if it did or not.

so in fact..no mythbusting really...just clarification.

It would just be so sad if some buyer bought lenses only to find out they have a vignetting problem after he has already paid for them. If they don't vignette..thats awesome..and that set will go to a good home.
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Tonaci, i think your post was not a question but it felt like more of a sabotage of my lenses, showing links to footage that bears no relevance to my lenses, links to reviews basically giving the glass bad press on a thread that is selling set of lenses, it doesn't help me in any way and could mislead people. Don't believe everything that you read, i always say i don't belive anything until i actually test it myself.

Apology for saying you had made an offer i actually got you confused with another member with very similar name. It was a genuine mistake.

No hard feelings though. X
 
Ok here is a link to some footage i just shot in my garden, it's not art and it's not beautiful, but it shows the lens. It is the 18mm stopped down to T11 at the end i open it right up to T2.2 and blow the image out, make you own minds up, i hope this now answers everyones query about the cooke SERIII and vignetting.

BIG LOVE DUDES!

http://www.vimeo.com/3307149 4K 16:9
 
Bob.H said:
Tonaci, i think your post was not a question but it felt like more of a sabotage of my lenses, showing links to footage that bears no relevance to my lenses, links to reviews basically giving the glass bad press on a thread that is selling set of lenses, it doesn't help me in any way and could mislead people. Don't believe everything that you read, i always say i don't belive anything until i actually test it myself.

Apology for saying you had made an offer i actually got you confused with another member with very similar name. It was a genuine mistake.

No hard feelings though. X
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I initially had a single post asking very succinctly whether or not your 18mm or 25mm vignettes. My subsequent post was in direct response to Tony Covell's inquiry of where I got the info. I was clear to point out that I was referring to "non-panavised" cooke panchros as exhibiting the vignetting. There is no sabotage going on here as I have never stated incorrectly that YOUR lenses suffer vignetting..which is why I asked in a thread for clarification.

*attention alert..the pics attached are from cooke panchros..but i have no clue if they are form the panavised ones.. bob can clarify.

attached in this post are pics you uploaded in a post last month (one pic is the cooke 18mm and the other is the leica 19mm).. and it "looks" like some vignetting is happening (the cooke pic has some dark round corners in lower right which i don't see with the leica still)..although I want to be clear again, I COULD BE COMPLETELY wrong..and it all could be just lighting. different lighting setup perhaps with the leica vs cooke pic? additionally, I don't know if the cookes you uploaded stills for are from your panavised cookes.

http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=357868&postcount=15

your vimeo post is tough for me to use for judging. any possibility of a 1k or 2k download version of that? again, please don't get defensive about this. my inquiry is simple. These are rehoused cooke panchros..so I am naturally curious if they vignette or not. I am hoping they don't vignette as that would mean more full 4k options for glass. i am not trying to sabotage you, like evin, I love glass..and I honestly find your set of panavised lenses interesting.
 
Listen mate, no worries.

The pics i uploaded were from my century set of cookes, i can see a dark edge in both pics though on both the 19mm leica and the 18mm cooke, which is due to the lighting conditions , or lack of it :-) I just slapped the camera on my dining room table and shot some footage. I do think there is a very slight fall off on the speed panchros, but it is less on the panavision cookes. However it doesn't render them unusable and certainly doesn't relegate them to 2K only, i think maybe the bncr mount lenses are different, which is why visual products said that.

I can give you a 1K download, any ideas where i can serve it from? I will try putting it on bigfile and posting a link.

I have a very solid bid from a UK bidder who is going to put the lenses on the projector at ICE on monday where they will be serviced before they are handed over.

I've got to say, i do love these lenses and it breaks my heart to sell them, but i have just too much glass somewhere around 40 lenses, so yes, i suppose i am a member of GAA ( Glass-aholics-anonymous ) LOL....maybe that's why i seemed a bit defensive, protecting my babies. But i have got to let some glass go. I am 100% sure that the new owner of these lenses will just adore them as much as me, and never let them go. As for me i will hang onto my century set as i want to keep the 100mm as part of that set.

There is a reason this glass has spanned the ages, it is just fantastic!! and the cookes need to go to someone who is passionate about them, and where they come from. Asthey are part of the history of one of the worlds greatest lens makers, cooke.

namaste...Bob X

tonaci said:
I initially had a single post asking very succinctly whether or not your 18mm or 25mm vignettes. My subsequent post was in direct response to Tony Covell's inquiry of where I got the info. I was clear to point out that I was referring to "non-panavised" cooke panchros as exhibiting the vignetting. There is no sabotage going on here as I have never stated incorrectly that YOUR lenses suffer vignetting..which is why I asked in a thread for clarification.

*attention alert..the pics attached are from cooke panchros..but i have no clue if they are form the panavised ones.. bob can clarify.

attached in this post are pics you uploaded in a post last month (one pic is the cooke 18mm and the other is the leica 19mm).. and it "looks" like some vignetting is happening (the cooke pic has some dark round corners in lower right which i don't see with the leica still)..although I want to be clear again, I COULD BE COMPLETELY wrong..and it all could be just lighting. different lighting setup perhaps with the leica vs cooke pic? additionally, I don't know if the cookes you uploaded stills for are from your panavised cookes.

http://reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=357868&postcount=15

your vimeo post is tough for me to use for judging. any possibility of a 1k or 2k download version of that? again, please don't get defensive about this. my inquiry is simple. These are rehoused cooke panchros..so I am naturally curious if they vignette or not. I am hoping they don't vignette as that would mean more full 4k options for glass. i am not trying to sabotage you, like evin, I love glass..and I honestly find your set of panavised lenses interesting.
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Taylor Morrison said:
Maybe I will ask again... Bob, Close focusing? I shoot a fair amount of table top and would like to know how tight I can get. I know they are not macros but I would like to know before I make a bid.

Thanks in advance

Taylor
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sorry taylor let me get back to you.
 
Bob.H said:
I do think there is a very slight fall off on the speed panchros, but it is less on the panavision cookes. However it doesn't render them unusable and certainly doesn't relegate them to 2K only, i think maybe the bncr mount lenses are different, which is why visual products said that.
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Thanks bob for clarifying.
 
With these lenses turning more than 360, that probably means they "have the pin pulled" in their focus track design. One the original housings of the old Cookes one could pull out a pin that was the stop of the focus range and be able to rotate the ring again upon itself. The markings would be meaningless at that point but you would be able to focus down to macro length, essentially right up to the front element. It was a feature exploited on just about every old Cooke I ever saw and I'm glad to see it on these lenses as well. I imagine Panavision put a rib at the end of the thread ring so the lens would not accidentally dismantle itself if rotated too far.
 
Hi mitch, i want to update my last statement, i was working from memeory on the glass when i replied to the 306 turn on the barrel, i have a set of centurys as well that do turn way beyond 360 and got a bit confused, so just to be clear

The Panavision cookes do not turn 360 it is 180 and they do turn slightly past infinity . They are pretty close focus but i wouldn't say macro, here is an idea of the CF of each lens

18 9"
25 15.5"
32 11.5"
40 16"
50 31.5"
75 4ft 5"
 
Victorio

Victorio

Just a FYI. Victtorio Storaro loved the Cookes and shot a few films with them that we all might consider beautiful films.
Also Stanley Donen who owned his own BNC fronted BL 1 owned a set.

Fine glass.
 
Peter Lyons Collister said:
Just a FYI. Victtorio Storaro loved the Cookes and shot a few films with them that we all might consider beautiful films.
Also Stanley Donen who owned his own BNC fronted BL 1 owned a set.

Fine glass.
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Hey thanks peter, any ideas which films Storaro shot on them ?
 
Bob.H said:
on a pro35 it will Vignette, the frame size on pro35 is big not far off a stills size gate, thats why most people use supers or cookes on them, in my experience anyway. i have never tried them, but that's my hunch.

Stephen 4 years ago i saw full set of MKII supers selling for 5K on ebay and look how that has changed. Glass has gone nuts.
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Hi Bob,

I was bidding on those MKII's, I went out for lunch and my snipe bid of $7500 was passed, I think they made $7500. 30 minutes before the end of the auction it was still about $5000.

Stephen
 
Thank you to everyone who showed an interest in these lenses, as it is sunday
they are now sold ( pending payment ) :shiftyph34r:
 
We put the lenses on the projector today, they looked great, i still can't believe the quality of this glass. considering thier age, at the moment they are all being serviced so they are ready to go to thier new home.
 
Todd Anderson said:
Hi Kaya,

Do you have the name of the shop that did the re-housing of your Cooke's for $1,800 each? In addition to three of the Century Re-housed Cooke's (32mm, 50mm, 75mm), I have a full set in the original mounts that I would like a few, if not all re-housed. And Sorry to here your set got stolen... that blows.

Thanks,
Todd

p.s.: I got my 50mm from Bob H. the other day (thanks, Bob!) Waiting to bring it down to Duclose with my other two to throw them up on the projector... Mechanically that lens is really smooth!... By they way, Bob, do you know how many Century Re-house's were done for the Cooke's? A few dozen? A hundred? Any idea, how many of these sets are floating around...
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if i wanted to rehouse a set ...where or who can i go or see???
 
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