Nick Morrison
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I made this list of format sizes for personal use a couple of months ago, and realized it may be useful to share with the community.
I think it's fascinating to have different format sizes in one place - from 8mm to IMAX - and then quickly see how different RED Dragon formats scale and fit into these "standards".
Hopefully some of you find this useful/insightfull too.
I did quite a lot of research on this, however I'm aware there's a chance some numbers could be off (or mis-typed)....so please feel free to reach out if something needs to be updated.
I also provided Image Circles for a number of formats ("IC"), when that info was readily available (to help better understand which lenses could be best suited for different Dragon formats).
Enjoy!
COLOR VALUES:
ORANGE = Established Film Standards
LIGHT BLUE = Arri/Alexa Standards (for comparison)
FORMAT SIZES: A COMPARISON
REASEARCH
IMAGE CIRCLE DATABASE
(list of all IMAGE CIRCLES for MOST lenses!!!)
RED IMAGE SIZES/CIRCLES
(list of all RED Dragon sizes)
SMALLER FORMATS
8MM 7.9mm x 4.5mm
SUPER 8MM 7.9mm x 5.79
16MM: 10.26mm x 7.49
SUPER 16MM: 12.52mm by 7.41
DRAGON 2.5K HD: 11.99mm x 6.7
DRAGON 2.5K FF: 12.79mm x 6.7
DRAGON 3K HD: 14.39mm x 8.1
DRAGON 3K FF: 15.35mm x 8.1
DRAGON 3.5K HD: 16.79mm x 9.38
DRAGON 3.5K FF: 17.91mm x 9.38
RAVEN HD:
RED DRAGON 4K HD: 19.19mm x 10.79 IC=22.02
RED DRAGON 4K FF: 20.47mm x10.79 IC=23.14
ACADEMY 35:
ACADEMY 35: 21.95mm x 16 IC=27.2
RED DRAGON 4.5K HD: 21.59mm x 12.15 IC=24.77mm (IMHO you need 30mm to cover 4.5KHD)
RED DRAGON 4.5K FF: 23.03mm x 12.15 IC=26.04mm
SUPER 35:
SUPER 35 2perf: 24.89mm x 9.47 IC=26.6
SUPER 35 3perf: 24.89mm x 13.87 IC=28.5
SUPER 35 4perf: 24.89mm x 18.66 IC=31.1
ALEXA: 23.8mm x 13.4 IC=27.8mm
ALEXA Prores 2KHD: 23.7mm x 13.3 IC=27.3mm
RED DRAGON 5K HD: 23.98mm x 13.49 IC=27.51mm
(IMHO you need 32mm to cover 5KHD)
RED DRAGON 5K FF: 25.58mm x 13.49 IC=28.92mm
SUPER 35+
ALEXA OPEN GATE: 28.7mm x 18.13 IC=33.5
RED DRAGON 6KHD: 27.82mm x 15.65 IC=31.92mm
(IMHO You need 35mm to cover 6KHD)
RED DRAGON 6K WS: 30.7mm x 12.95 IC=33.32mm
RED DRAGON 6K FF: 30.7mm x 15.8 IC=34.52mm
FULL FRAME+
FULL FRAME: 36mm x 24 IC=43.2mm
VISTA VISION: 37.72mm x 25.17 IC=45.3
RED DRAGON 8KHD: 38mm x21 IC=44mm
RED DRAGON 8K FULL FRAME: 40.96mm x21.60 IC=46.34mm
65MM+
ULTRA-PANAVISION 70mm:
48.56mm x 22.10 (+1.25 sqz) IC=53.3mm
ALEXA 65 OPEN GATE: 54.12mm x 25.59 IC=59.9mm
HASSELBLAD: 55mm x 55. IC=77.8mm
IMAX: 71.09mm x 52.63 IC=88.5mm
David Mullen, ASC on 65mm (link)
I think it's fascinating to have different format sizes in one place - from 8mm to IMAX - and then quickly see how different RED Dragon formats scale and fit into these "standards".
Hopefully some of you find this useful/insightfull too.
I did quite a lot of research on this, however I'm aware there's a chance some numbers could be off (or mis-typed)....so please feel free to reach out if something needs to be updated.
I also provided Image Circles for a number of formats ("IC"), when that info was readily available (to help better understand which lenses could be best suited for different Dragon formats).
Enjoy!
COLOR VALUES:
ORANGE = Established Film Standards
LIGHT BLUE = Arri/Alexa Standards (for comparison)
FORMAT SIZES: A COMPARISON
REASEARCH
IMAGE CIRCLE DATABASE
(list of all IMAGE CIRCLES for MOST lenses!!!)
RED IMAGE SIZES/CIRCLES
(list of all RED Dragon sizes)
SMALLER FORMATS
8MM 7.9mm x 4.5mm
SUPER 8MM 7.9mm x 5.79
16MM: 10.26mm x 7.49
SUPER 16MM: 12.52mm by 7.41
DRAGON 2.5K HD: 11.99mm x 6.7
DRAGON 2.5K FF: 12.79mm x 6.7
DRAGON 3K HD: 14.39mm x 8.1
DRAGON 3K FF: 15.35mm x 8.1
DRAGON 3.5K HD: 16.79mm x 9.38
DRAGON 3.5K FF: 17.91mm x 9.38
RAVEN HD:
RED DRAGON 4K HD: 19.19mm x 10.79 IC=22.02
RED DRAGON 4K FF: 20.47mm x10.79 IC=23.14
ACADEMY 35:
ACADEMY 35: 21.95mm x 16 IC=27.2
RED DRAGON 4.5K HD: 21.59mm x 12.15 IC=24.77mm (IMHO you need 30mm to cover 4.5KHD)
RED DRAGON 4.5K FF: 23.03mm x 12.15 IC=26.04mm
SUPER 35:
SUPER 35 2perf: 24.89mm x 9.47 IC=26.6
SUPER 35 3perf: 24.89mm x 13.87 IC=28.5
SUPER 35 4perf: 24.89mm x 18.66 IC=31.1
ALEXA: 23.8mm x 13.4 IC=27.8mm
ALEXA Prores 2KHD: 23.7mm x 13.3 IC=27.3mm
RED DRAGON 5K HD: 23.98mm x 13.49 IC=27.51mm
(IMHO you need 32mm to cover 5KHD)
RED DRAGON 5K FF: 25.58mm x 13.49 IC=28.92mm
SUPER 35+
ALEXA OPEN GATE: 28.7mm x 18.13 IC=33.5
RED DRAGON 6KHD: 27.82mm x 15.65 IC=31.92mm
(IMHO You need 35mm to cover 6KHD)
RED DRAGON 6K WS: 30.7mm x 12.95 IC=33.32mm
RED DRAGON 6K FF: 30.7mm x 15.8 IC=34.52mm
FULL FRAME+
FULL FRAME: 36mm x 24 IC=43.2mm
VISTA VISION: 37.72mm x 25.17 IC=45.3
RED DRAGON 8KHD: 38mm x21 IC=44mm
RED DRAGON 8K FULL FRAME: 40.96mm x21.60 IC=46.34mm
65MM+
ULTRA-PANAVISION 70mm:
48.56mm x 22.10 (+1.25 sqz) IC=53.3mm
ALEXA 65 OPEN GATE: 54.12mm x 25.59 IC=59.9mm
HASSELBLAD: 55mm x 55. IC=77.8mm
IMAX: 71.09mm x 52.63 IC=88.5mm
David Mullen, ASC on 65mm (link)
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