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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

"Flight"...

Mark Toia said:
I love 2d movies. So much easier on the mind.

I went and watched Prometheus again last night but in 2d this time 3d last week.. Was fantastic. So crisp. I could only imagine what a 4k projection would be like.

Is 3D really worth the trouble and cost... ? 3d does not tell a better story, but post is twice as much to do so... Some one has to explain to me the logic and cost benefits weighing up the turn over and profits. The same amount of people would have watched Prometheus in 2d if that's all it came out in. Right... So why spend 30% more in making it.?

The 3d on Prometheus was a lot better than most other movies Ive watched... except for AVATAR.
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It's quite simple, 3D projection is simply the best way to protect the film from piracy or so called "screener copies".
but I agree the hassle of shooting with two cameras, the poor cinema projections, and the post work is more than double.. Im not kidding you if I would say it's 5 or 10 times as much.
The whole process of alining the image streams setting the intrestpoints, matching color differences, rendering the CG and dealing with things as paint/splines etc in 3D is just terrible..

So yes, I wish the race was turned to make stunning 2D films again and see how well it could be made with all the new tech and resolutions etc.

Really looking forward to see Total Recall, trailer looks good and I think they do not go the 3D route.
 
Björn Benckert said:
It's quite simple, 3D projection is simply the best way to protect the film from piracy or so called "screener copies".
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Well... You do realize that all 3D movies have a 2D version which is screened at the same time in other theatres right?
 
Björn Benckert said:
It's quite simple, 3D projection is simply the best way to protect the film from piracy or so called "screener copies".
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Really? You think pirates aren't clever enough to just film the screen through one of the 3D eye glass pieces? ;-)
 
An interesting note... Don Burgess was a bit reluctant to shoot "Book of Eli" on anything but film. The directors, the Hughes brothers, encouraged him to do a test before production. The test showed Don that RED could hang with film... actually beat film in the side by side tests. And that was with an original RED ONE with the 1st sensor.

Don has gone on to shoot 5 features on RED. "Flight" is one of them. Add in "The Muppets" and a new film he has just started.

Pretty incredible...

Jim
 
The trailer from flight is some of the best looking treatment of Epic footage I have seen. I would love to know the post process and what was done to the footage to arrive at that result!
 
I can't stand 3d. really can't. wish it would die. just go away. leave me alone. stop asking for more money and giving me a headache. leave. let me watch a nice photographic frame in peace. :)


Mark Toia said:
I love 2d movies. So much easier on the mind.

I went and watched Prometheus again last night but in 2d this time 3d last week.. Was fantastic. So crisp. I could only imagine what a 4k projection would be like.

Is 3D really worth the trouble and cost... ? 3d does not tell a better story, but post is twice as much to do so... Some one has to explain to me the logic and cost benefits weighing up the turn over and profits. The same amount of people would have watched Prometheus in 2d if that's all it came out in. Right... So why spend 30% more in making it.?

The 3d on Prometheus was a lot better than most other movies Ive watched... except for AVATAR.
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Brant Hadfield said:
The trailer from flight is some of the best looking treatment of Epic footage I have seen. I would love to know the post process and what was done to the footage to arrive at that result!
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It looks pretty flat and non color "treated" to me. I guess that is what the director wanted? I am not really a fan of anything that looks like "reality"....I guess I just like my images to take me away....to a land other then here. :)
 
Mark Toia said:
I love 2d movies. So much easier on the mind.

I went and watched Prometheus again last night but in 2d this time 3d last week.. Was fantastic. So crisp. I could only imagine what a 4k projection would be like.

Is 3D really worth the trouble and cost... ? 3d does not tell a better story, but post is twice as much to do so... Some one has to explain to me the logic and cost benefits weighing up the turn over and profits. The same amount of people would have watched Prometheus in 2d if that's all it came out in. Right... So why spend 30% more in making it.?

The 3d on Prometheus was a lot better than most other movies Ive watched... except for AVATAR.
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totally agree. I wear glasses, so i've never gotten a good 3D experience wearing double glasses. I find it weird looking and often dizzying. That said, when i was able to get the glasses level to my eyes, the 3D in the RED booth @ NAB was outstanding. But again impractical for me to watch for more than a few minutes.
 
Mark Toia said:
I love 2d movies. So much easier on the mind.

I went and watched Prometheus again last night but in 2d this time 3d last week.. Was fantastic. So crisp. I could only imagine what a 4k projection would be like. ...
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It was finished in 2K only.


Btw 3D is awesome thing, but it is still waiting for its best films yet.
Unfortunately its not for everybody, lots of people is struggling with their 3D perception in their normal life.
 
I like a good 3D presentation, but I've barely seen a handful until now.
While 3D acquisition and post production works quite well these days, 3D exhibition doesn't. Badly calibrated projectors and horribly low brightness values are the major issue right now. Bring on those Red Projectors!
 
Worked on Flight (both on EPK unit and as a day player on production) and was very impressed at the choices Mr Burgess (es.. his son is frequently a camera operator on his projects) and Mr Zemekis made... I saw that the Epic's form factor was very useful for their creative ideas.
I am on a lot of BTS units, and seldom see as concious and effective use of tools in storytelling.
I have been working BTS on some other studio projects using RED and Alexa (and film).... and cant tell you about them till the trailers drop...
Have not seen a 3D project from BTS yet... Only from a theater seat...
 
Justin Chin said:
Saw a screening of Flight last night. Loved the cinematography, coloring and palette. Intense story. Robert Zemeckis said he loved the Epic camera in the Q&A at the end.
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Very cool! Looking forward to seeing it.
 
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