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first time shooting with Red Dragon some advices

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Patrick tang

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Hi everyone,

im very new about red camera, i just had the chance to shoot a short movie.

In a dark room... with some lights DYI

i woud like to know what is the best setting camera for that kind of shoot? ( shutter, Iso, Kevin...)

i joined a snapshot then you can get me better feedback

The actually setting was Shutter speed 172.8, Iso 250 , Kevin 3500, redlogfilm

Thank you
 

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Red doesn't like underexposed, As Bob mentioned you may need more light... Fast glass and slower shutter will help you though
 
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If you are shooting 24fps in a 50hz country you best you se 172.8 degree shutter as Patrick has done here.
 
Yeah, that's likely way too underexposed; the minute you add contrast and/or try to get proper brightness you'll get some nasty noise in there.

At the very least, boost the ambient light level by a couple stops (via more light preferably, but even opening up the lens would be better). What is the left goal-post doing? What does this shot look like at ISO2000 (done in post)?
 
The exposure here looks fine. He says its ISO250. Which means he's got plenty of room if he wants to do any boosting in post, but it sounds like he wanted a dark room look anyway...
 
Alan Gordon said:
The exposure here looks fine. He says its ISO250. Which means he's got plenty of room if he wants to do any boosting in post, but it sounds like he wanted a dark room look anyway...
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It doesn't really look like he's got plenty of room, unless he wants the image to be pretty dark. Lack of contrast is probably a bigger issue...

But an R3D would quickly disclose that.

Don't look blindly at ISO, as it isn't really too informative. Neither at 250 nor @ 12800 :)

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Phil is a source of good info.
 
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Patrick tang said:
Hi everyone,

im very new about red camera
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Hi Patrick. I've found that many people new to shooting with digital cinema cameras like Dragon don't fully explore the in camera exposure tools and don't usually understand the concept of ISO rating. Here's some helpful things to get you started.


Phil Holland said:
Red Dragon - On Screen Exposure Tools



Red Dragon - In Camera Exposure Tools



Red Dragon - ISO / FLUT Breakdown




Red Dragon - ISO Examples



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Thanks guys for all reply, thx Phil holland for the board i will study it. For my shot was using the 35mm Samyang lenses T-stop 2.2 .
i wanted my shot looking like dark room, here is the result after color correction and bring the iso up to 400 Iso. To me it looks good but maybe for you professionnal it might be wrong and lack of light. So should i bring the light higher? or should i be at 800 Iso and get bright light?
 

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If it is already shot, then post an r3d file. If information is available, then guessing is not really needed, right?
 
Mike P. said:
Yeah, that's likely way too underexposed; the minute you add contrast and/or try to get proper brightness you'll get some nasty noise in there.

At the very least, boost the ambient light level by a couple stops (via more light preferably, but even opening up the lens would be better). What is the left goal-post doing? What does this shot look like at ISO2000 (done in post)?
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here if i bring at 2000 Iso it kind of noisy
 

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i could post the file but its quite huge ! but once the hole editing done i will keep it update.
i liked the lighting i had shot but something i might miss some highlights.
 

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Patrick tang said:
i could post the file but its quite huge ! but once the hole editing done i will keep it update.
i liked the lighting i had shot but something i might miss some highlights.
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Hi Patrick, in Redcine-x, you can choose one frame snapshot for R3D file.
Go to the frame you like to send, and then choose R3D Snapshot
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After a few seconds, you'll find a one frame R3D file in your Desktop, upload that.
 
Patrick tang said:
i could post the file but its quite huge ! but once the hole editing done i will keep it update.
i liked the lighting i had shot but something i might miss some highlights.
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I once heard a respected lighting designer say "you have no idea how much light it takes to make a stage look dark". I think you will drive yourself crazying trying to get the look of a dark room from a room that's actually dark. You want to light it so it looks dark.
 
Thank Dr sassi ^_^
when i upload the files it says upload failed
 
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