FEB Update / IPP2 Preview 2

[Jarred Land]

Shipping Updates

Finally! We are pretty much caught up with Heliums Weapons. Now about 2-3 days behind ... so new orders should go out within a few days of order.

For Epic-W we are close... Its about a 2 week turn around for new orders.

Scarlet-W ... The orders are not letting up... order today and your looking at summer.

Raven... don't even ask. We actually stopped taking new orders completely till we get caught up, which will be summer / fall time as well.

Weapon VV - Last batch of sensors came out worse than the one before it. The few sensors that did come in are being split out to DXLs who we pushed out last time for our customers. Cross your fingers for a positive turn in 60 days.

Since we are doing such a shitty job keeping up with the demand, and missed our Helium catchup by xmas goal, we are extending the red owner pricing deals that were supposed to end in December until we actually do.


IPP2


Thanks for all the feedback with the first IPP2 Alpha. We are close to locking things down but you all seem to be split between how much contrast is just right... so we are releasing a new IPP2 preview today with 3 different contrast settings.

Take a swing at them all and let Graeme know which tickles you the most.

Greame also bundled up a bunch of Luts together with some rolloff options for the more adventurous.

WEAPON FIRMWARE (6K CF, 8K S35, 8K VV, 8K VV ANA)
https://www.red.com/downloads/55a01322f01b305ec100179a

WEAPON FIRMWARE (MAGNESIUM ONLY)
https://www.red.com/downloads/56af8a8ccc11fa5a1b0020a4

RED EPIC-W FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/56d874d3f01b302cf500085a

SCARLET-W FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/56af8ace2325b449230020b0

RED RAVEN FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/56af8b709bf7e832280022aa

EPIC DRAGON FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/52b4914517ef02624c000017

SCARLET DRAGON FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/538b61b52f74a95b28001816

EPIC MYSTERIUM-X FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/4f56854e6261f95a5700069b

SCARLET MYSTERIUM-X FIRMWARE
https://www.red.com/downloads/4f56854e6261f95a570006ca


https://red.cachefly.net/IPP2_Preview/IPP2_Preview_Cubes.zip

 

[Anton Shavlik]

Yay

 

[Jarek Zabczynski]

Nice!

 

[Phil Holland]

I never have updated firmware on a plane before, but there's a first for everything

And thanks for putting the cubes up on their own!

 

[Ho Perry]

Thanks Mr. Jarred & Red Team

 

[Graeme Nattress]

The new cubes do take one bit of feedback from earlier - now the perceived image brightness matches that of the original raw development. Full IPP2 is more than just cube LUTs and gives you a great degree of flexibility while keeping the workflow simple. The new preview cubes (and in-camera) give a taste of that flexibility.

Graeme

 

[dino g]

this is perfect timing thank you

 

[Jan Schuster]

Awesome!! So if I'm reading this correct all DSMC2 camera get ipp2 in camera? Does this include Scarlet-W as well?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Awesome!! So if I'm reading this correct all DSMC2 camera get ipp2 in camera? Does this include Scarlet-W as well?

IPP2 in-camera is for Helium sensor cameras only. See http://www.postmagazine.com/Press-C...introduces-image-processing-enhancements.aspx for more info.

Graeme

 

[Matthew Quinn]

Thank you!

 

[Britt Bonnell]

GLORY!

 

[Noah Yuan-Vogel]

Cool! Looking forward to finalized IPP2. Any chance bright reds on Helium are fixed yet? Primary color highlights seemed to get mostly fixed in IPP2 but red lights still seem to turn completely yellow in the last firmware with IPP2 preview.

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Any chance bright reds on Helium are fixed yet? Primary color highlights seemed to get mostly fixed in IPP2 but red lights still seem to turn completely yellow in the last firmware with IPP2 preview.

You'll need to send me an R3D to see what you're seeing. Chances are you're clipping and thus there's no information there to generate an accurate colour. For Helium sensor cameras, given their sensitivity, they can benefit from using a higher ISO (say ISO1280 / ISO1600) to allow for more highlight capture.

Graeme

 

[Alexander Thomson]

Loving my IPP2 workflow with Raven so far, looking forward to trying out this iteration.

 

[Kenneth C Merrill]

You'll need to send me an R3D to see what you're seeing. Chances are you're clipping and thus there's no information there to generate an accurate colour. For Helium sensor cameras, given their sensitivity, they can benefit from using a higher ISO (say ISO1280 / ISO1600) to allow for more highlight capture.

Graeme

Is there not a way to tell the camera what to do when the channels clip like that? He says it's producing a yellow color right now; so obviously there is a protocol for clipped highlights; it's just not producing the right color. It seems like companies like Arri have altered the protocol for clipping highlights to replicate the true color (though even then it's not always accurate).

 

[Sean Cruser]

Have a shoot this weekend and excited to use the new IPP2 luts!

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Have a shoot this weekend and excited to use the new IPP2 luts!

Other than the slight brightness change, the "Medium" is what you've had before. High and Low are variants with more or less contrast. If you download the LUT pack, you'll find two roll-off variants for each. The default rolloff is what I've found best most of the time, but I did get a high-key shot in testing that benefited from smoother (ie cutting in earlier) rolloff.

Graeme

 

[Ben Scott]

Scarlet-W ... The orders are not letting up... order today and your looking at summer.

Order back in December and we're still on for Spring?

 

[Noah Yuan-Vogel]

Is there not a way to tell the camera what to do when the channels clip like that? He says it's producing a yellow color right now; so obviously there is a protocol for clipped highlights; it's just not producing the right color. It seems like companies like Arri have altered the protocol for clipping highlights to replicate the true color (though even then it's not always accurate).

In RED's defense, I've seen Alexa footage with reds that shift to yellow before blowing out too... Still seems like there must be a way to get a more natural transition here since it seems to work with all the other colors.

 

[Anton Shavlik]

Is there not a way to tell the camera what to do when the channels clip like that? He says it's producing a yellow color right now; so obviously there is a protocol for clipped highlights; it's just not producing the right color. It seems like companies like Arri have altered the protocol for clipping highlights to replicate the true color (though even then it's not always accurate).

If one channel is clipped it's impossible to know what the correct color is. Is it blown out by one stop or twenty? If green is near clipping and red is one stop over, yellow is appropriate. If red is 20 stops over, perhaps it should be red. Every sensor and film is affected by this problem, once beyond the dynamic range of the medium it's impossible to know.