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FCPX, on set post, and studio level workflows

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Sam Mestman - WMM

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Hey Guys,

There is some groundbreaking stuff in post happening these days... The age of dailies being a requirement that is necessary to begin editorial is coming to a close. On the latest installation that I'm currently doing for a $100 million dollar feature, using a combination of FCPX and Sync n Link X, we are able to get, for a multicamera EPIC shoot, 5k synced R3D's fully renamed according to scene, take, and camera angle off the cameras and ready to be edited in FCPX within 10 minutes of being downloaded... and you can do this from your laptop.

Forget on set looks... those are easy. Start thinking on set rough cuts. And start thinking fully prepped Events that get sent back to editorial with no trip to the lab.

Additionally, Intelligent Assistance has just released two new tools that fill in some major complaints people have had about FCPX in high level workflows.

Change List X solves the Change List Problem and you can now easily reconform in Pro Tools using FCPX.

Producer's Best Friend is, well, awesome, and allows you to distribute comprehensive .xls reports for your timelines and events... the uses for this are endless.

Both are available now on the App Store.

Additionally, we are using a PCI-E based ExaSAN system for group workflow in FCPX that allows for speeds up to 4800 MB/s and is configurable for up to around 750 TB of storage, and currently is allowing 2 streams of real time 5k EPIC playback across multiple machines playing back the same clip, from the same event, from the same project, at the same time. It's also less than half the price (and more than twice the speed) of a traditional Fiber Channel SAN system.

We are running circles around the Avid Unity.

And don't even get me started on metadata and what you're able to with that... we've come up with a system to make every single line of dialogue in a movie, and all commonly used script notes codes, easily searchable from the Event Browser. All it takes is a little planning, and a little communication ahead of time with your script supervisor.

At this point, I'm ready to take the Pepsi challenge against any high level NLE workflow out there... when it comes to price, performance, and ease of use... there really is no comparison, and this can be used on the highest levels of production. I am currently doing it.

And it will only get better.

Think I'm lying? Happy to show you a demo of all of this as soon as I'm back in the country (in a couple weeks). Come down to Lumaforge on The Lot in Hollywood, and I'll show you how it all works.
 
Hi Sam,

I recently changed to FCPX and am loving it.

Excuse my ignorance but do you do about sound tracks out to be sweetened without OMF?

Best
 
Rob Castiglione said:
Hi Sam,

I recently changed to FCPX and am loving it.

Excuse my ignorance but do you do about sound tracks out to be sweetened without OMF?

Best
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Hey Rob,

You just need to get X2Pro, and you can easily get into Protools via AAF. There's two flavors of it... X2Pro LE is about $60 and will work just fine for most projects. The full version is about $150 and basically just gives you some more control over your roles, and whether you want to use embedded or referenced audio in your AAF's. It's really easy to use, and is very stable and accurate, though. You can get both versions from the App Store.
 
Mathieu Ghekiere said:
Hi Sam,

sounds great. Maybe think, for us Europeans, having this kind of demo recorded or something, like your webinar?
Maybe it's a bit more difficult, but just putting the thought out there.

Thanks,
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That will definitely be happening at some point. At the very least, there's going to be a workflow document... I just need to find the time to do it. I'm hoping Late this month or next.
 
As soon as you get past the mental re-programming required and go FCPX with RAW R3D files - you won't go back to Avid or Premiere. And as soon as FCPX supports REDs GPU debayer it's really gonna rock hardcore.
 
Hi Sam.
Always interesting to follow your work. I re-posted this over at Macrumors in a thread to show the naysayers. Hope that's ok with you.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
As soon as you get past the mental re-programming required and go FCPX with RAW R3D files - you won't go back to Avid or Premiere. And as soon as FCPX supports REDs GPU debayer it's really gonna rock hardcore.
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Guess I have to try one of these days. Was shooting dual cameras down in cape town for a few days. running at 100fps. The transfer times get huge, then trying to test comp in premiere just sucks. And I do not find working with r3d's in premiere good for anything but hack wack straight cuts editing. Everything else get sluggish and then fails one way or the other. On set I actually want 1280x720 proress proxy files to quickly slush around between computers and tests comps, Just moving the r3d's is far to time consuming and normally I want to play with the clip that sit's on a card that needs to be over at the backup station....

So question is the rear SSD mag holder possible to use at the same time as the normal / side SSD mag slot. Basically recording to two mags at the same time, one goes to the DIT and one goes to "post / test comping / onset editing" That way I could work straight from the card and only transfer the needed clips to my workstation while the DIT is transferring everything... Is that possible?

Sorry for derailing the thread. keep answer short.
 
Björn Benckert said:
So question is the rear SSD mag holder possible to use at the same time as the normal / side SSD mag slot. Basically recording to two mags at the same time, one goes to the DIT and one goes to "post / test comping / onset editing" That way I could work straight from the card and only transfer the needed clips to my workstation while the DIT is transferring everything... Is that possible?
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Simultaniously record TWO SSD's? Doesn't work now - but .... that sure would be killer for some situations. Could be hardware limitation on CPU cycles to write that many files that fast (while doing other things).

FCPX is a bit of a brutal learning curve since it's basically a totally different methodology for editing. Once you get past that - it's clear that it's the future. Meta-data functionality is off the hook.
 
Mark L. Pederson said:
As soon as you get past the mental re-programming required and go FCPX with RAW R3D files - you won't go back to Avid or Premiere. And as soon as FCPX supports REDs GPU debayer it's really gonna rock hardcore.
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please give me some pointer on how to do it, I tried, I tried!!!! :emote_head_explode:
 
I'm ready to buy FCPX, but... what do you think, should I wait for next week's Apple event? Will they announce the new FCPX? If yes, when will it be available?
 
the september 10Th events probably will only be about iPhone, iPad and iOS.

We do know that the new Mac Pro is coming in the 'fall' with a new version of FCPX. Personally, I would guess somewhere october, but I have no real idea.

If you are not in hurry, you can wait. There is a trial to download in the meanwhile, for getting your feet wet in the program. Do check a lot of tutorials first.
 
They have been updating FCPX without charge since it came out so it would have been fairly reasonable to think you would be OK, but things may be changing. When Apple released Logic X they charged everyone full price; no free update. This likely projects their plan going forward. It is fair to consider that Logic X is a far more mature product than FCPX, so we may yet have a few more free updates for FCPX ahead of us. I'm not sure I would bet $300 on it... Not with only a few days to wait. I would take Mathieu's advise and try the free trial for a few days.
 
Sam back from Bulgaria ...

Sam back from Bulgaria ...

Joachim Hoge said:
Hi Sam.
Always interesting to follow your work. I re-posted this over at Macrumors in a thread to show the naysayers. Hope that's ok with you.
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Sam just got back from the studio level movie he's been working on in Bulgaria .... great write up in FCP.CO on his experiences:

http://www.fcp.co/?view=featured

Sam will be sharing some of his insights at our FCP X and Resolve 10 workflow session on Saturday Sept 21st at the The Lot in West Hollywood:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showth...ipping-workshop-Saturday-September-21st-10-am

EPIC plus FCP X plus Resolve 10 is a killer combination!

Neil
 
While we are all gathered... LOL

I have been bugged lately by an annoying colleague who is blathering :willy_nilly: inquiries about how/where FCP-X stores its metadata; separate from, or embedded within, the actual media files. I am hoping to shut him up on the issue but can't find a definitive answer. Can anyone help? Thanks!! :smiley:
 
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