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Ethernet Cables for REDLINK Development

Gavin Greenwalt said:
Also there are a whole bunch of typos in that section. The correct terminology is:

bi_da+
not
b1_da+
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Duly noted. Thanks for catching that.
Yes, the versions posted today show the correct, looking into the jack on camera, pinout.
 
So, has anyone found a small compact lightweight GigEthernet router that can be powered with 12V and that can be used as a Redlink bridge ?
I love Offhollywood's solution but it uses the Ctrl port which is already taken on my camera, so I'm looking for an alternative that would use the GigE port. Possible ?
 
We are using this router.

TRENDnet AC1900 TEW-818DRU Dual Band Wireless Router

Its mounted on a 3D rig where size isn't so important. We are running external 12V in to it via a voltage reg and needed 2 or more ports. It would be made a lot smaller if some one needed to. It works well.

The off hollywood hot link works well too as a single device.

Id like to find a wilress to Gig E bridge if any one finds one.
 
I'm using this little Gigabit switch from D-Link between the Scarlet and the travel router. It actually fits perfectly between the dovetail plate and the rails which hold the power and video breakout box at the top of the PROLINE Raven stabiliser. Soon I'm planning to mount it with the travel router on a piece of plastic, with another piece of the same size behind a certain distance away as a cable zone that I can mount to the camera somehow. I'll post it here when I've made it but it might be a few weeks away.

Very interested in finding a compact AP with a Gigabit port instead of a 100 Mbit one as well. Even Wireless N-Lite, which is what most of the travel routers use, runs at 150 Mbps so it makes sense to put an RJ45 port that doesn't limit your speed when routing from wired to wireless, I'm not sure why nobody is making them like that yet.

P.S. Used Foolcontrol on a jib the other day and that was awesome, too. Had assistants watching the HDMI and pulled off shots we couldn't have gotten without it :D
 
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Andrew Gentle said:
P.S. Used Foolcontrol on a jib the other day and that was awesome, too. Had assistants watching the HDMI and pulled off shots we couldn't have gotten without it :D
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:-)
 
Hello
I managed to find a low cost wifi solution that works for Red epics.

I bought a red lemo to RJ45 cable from
www.ebuddy-diycable.com
Vicky_ebuddy@vip.163.com

Nice solid cable in cat6 at a price that I could afford. I also bought a metre long lcd cable too that is solid and works well.

For a router I found a perfect second hand Trendset TEW-811DRU that has gigabit ethernet ports, for 45 euros.
In under 20 mins, I had the whole setup operational using the remote app supplied in the RED.com dev SDK kit. The red app is not very sophisticated but it works except for the LUTS that go crazy on my camera.

I soldered a router power cable to 4 pin xlr for 12 volt batteries, stuck the router to the back of the cam with very sticky double sided and velcro and it easily sits on a steadicam . The Trendset TEW-811DRU is very light.

The wifi is 5gig AC so super fast.

the best part of all this is that I can use the router at home as well, so it is not just another camera toy I use every so often.

I hope this inspires others
 

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If you'd like to order Short Versions of Lemo rj45, We make them shorter at TinkerWorks, Inc. Small lead time, but We make customs solutions as well.

We also make the UltiMote, a hardware RCU that controls All Arri/Red and Sony F65. I just used one for a x17 Camera Array Hardwired and ultra reliable.
 
I know this is an old thread, but I'm hoping someone can point me to a current source for a Gig-e to lemo cable capable of interfacing by Epic X with a bridge/router. My Hotlink crapped out and can't be repaired. So I'm looking to put together a tiny USB powered router solution and therefore need a SHORT Gig-e to lemo cable, not the 9 foot one RED sells, that I can use for on camera mounting. Actually, the lemo to ethernet pigtail (female ethernet socket)proposed by Jeff Kilgroe earlier in this thread is probably the best idea since you could then use cheap network cable to extend out to various lengths for various purposes. But I'll take anything shorter than 18 inches.

Does anyone know of a source?
 
Elizabeth Lowrey said:
I know this is an old thread, but I'm hoping someone can point me to a current source for a Gig-e to lemo cable capable of interfacing by Epic X with a bridge/router. My Hotlink crapped out and can't be repaired. So I'm looking to put together a tiny USB powered router solution and therefore need a SHORT Gig-e to lemo cable, not the 9 foot one RED sells, that I can use for on camera mounting. Actually, the lemo to ethernet pigtail (female ethernet socket)proposed by Jeff Kilgroe earlier in this thread is probably the best idea since you could then use cheap network cable to extend out to various lengths for various purposes. But I'll take anything shorter than 18 inches.

Does anyone know of a source?
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Never heard of those before... just found them online .... apparently available in different lengths

https://www.designacable.com/catalo...ster-slave-gig-e-cable-epic-scarlet-dragon-1/

Please note you will need to use a GIG-E capable (10/100/1000) router and not just a Fast Ethernet (10/100) portable one.
The camera can only talk at GIG-Ethernet speed and unfortunately 99% of small routers are limited to Fast ethernet (100)
 
Elizabeth Lowrey said:
I know this is an old thread, but I'm hoping someone can point me to a current source for a Gig-e to lemo cable capable of interfacing by Epic X with a bridge/router. My Hotlink crapped out and can't be repaired. So I'm looking to put together a tiny USB powered router solution and therefore need a SHORT Gig-e to lemo cable, not the 9 foot one RED sells, that I can use for on camera mounting. Actually, the lemo to ethernet pigtail (female ethernet socket)proposed by Jeff Kilgroe earlier in this thread is probably the best idea since you could then use cheap network cable to extend out to various lengths for various purposes. But I'll take anything shorter than 18 inches.

Does anyone know of a source?
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Or, if Mikael's suggestion does not work out, you could buy the Red one and have someone cut it shorter and crimp on a new connector (male or female).
 
Mikael Lubtchansky said:
Never heard of those before... just found them online .... apparently available in different lengths

https://www.designacable.com/catalo...ster-slave-gig-e-cable-epic-scarlet-dragon-1/

Please note you will need to use a GIG-E capable (10/100/1000) router and not just a Fast Ethernet (10/100) portable one.
The camera can only talk at GIG-Ethernet speed and unfortunately 99% of small routers are limited to Fast ethernet (100)
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Mikael, thanks so much for the reply and for the crack research. I had not found that site, and their product is exactly what I'm looking for. Only negative is they're in Great Britain, but it's still very viable. I did locate a domestic company since I posted that will do one custom, but it looks to be very expensive.

While I have your valuable attention, :smiley: can you confirm that the following router, which is listed in your foolcontrol wifi tips pdf, does, in fact, offer 10/100/1000 true gigabit ethernet on the wired/network port? I rather suspect it doesn't but haven't yet heard back from the manufacturer to clarify.

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR802N-Wireless-Repeater-300Mbps/dp/B00TQEX8BO


Robert Hofmeyr said:
Or, if Mikael's suggestion does not work out, you could buy the Red one and have someone cut it shorter and crimp on a new connector (male or female).
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Robert, thanks so much also for your reply. I have never attempted splicing or terminating network cable, though I had thought about the viability of doing that myself if I just bought the 9 foot RED cable and cut it an attempted to put another cat 5e terminal on it. I've done minor soldering and wire stripping/connector integration, but the wires on cat 5e look really small and fragile and might be beyond my expertise to deal with. Have you successfully terminated network cable and do you think it's something that, with good light and mucho magnification, a a relative amateur could handle?
 
Elizabeth Lowrey said:
Mikael, thanks so much for the reply and for the crack research. I had not found that site, and their product is exactly what I'm looking for. Only negative is they're in Great Britain, but it's still very viable. I did locate a domestic company since I posted that will do one custom, but it looks to be very expensive.

While I have your valuable attention, :smiley: can you confirm that the following router, which is listed in your foolcontrol wifi tips pdf, does, in fact, offer 10/100/1000 true gigabit ethernet on the wired/network port? I rather suspect it doesn't but haven't yet heard back from the manufacturer to clarify.

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR802N-Wireless-Repeater-300Mbps/dp/B00TQEX8BO




Robert, thanks so much also for your reply. I have never attempted splicing or terminating network cable, though I had thought about the viability of doing that myself if I just bought the 9 foot RED cable and cut it an attempted to put another cat 5e terminal on it. I've done minor soldering and wire stripping/connector integration, but the wires on cat 5e look really small and fragile and might be beyond my expertise to deal with. Have you successfully terminated network cable and do you think it's something that, with good light and mucho magnification, a a relative amateur could handle?
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It's quite easy. No soldering required. You will need a crimper though. Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Crimper-Connector-Network-Crimper315/dp/B008UY5WL0/ref=mp_s_a_1_3. Just make sure you keep the wires in the same order. They should be colour coded. Otherwise any decent computer repair place should be able to help you out.
 
Elizabeth Lowrey said:
While I have your valuable attention, :smiley: can you confirm that the following router, which is listed in your foolcontrol wifi tips pdf, does, in fact, offer 10/100/1000 true gigabit ethernet on the wired/network port? I rather suspect it doesn't but haven't yet heard back from the manufacturer to clarify.

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR802N-Wireless-Repeater-300Mbps/dp/B00TQEX8BO
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Hi Elizabeth

no this small router is only 10/100 on ethernet side but that is not what we use it for .... it is recommended as a tiny router for cameras with built-in wifi so they can be used in infrastructure mode (via a router) versus using Ad Hoc mode (direct iOS -> camera wifi).
Infrastructure is a more robust system overall, where camera(s) will reconnect to the network after a battery change while phone stays connected and allows for multiple cameras on same network plus the benefit of placing the router (especially one with larger antennas) in a privilege location on set.
 
Thanks again, Mikael and Robert, for your advice. I will keep searching for a suitable router. In the meantime I'm also considering a much more expensive (and elegant) solution through a Teradek Latitude MDM.M reciever/driver, which acts as a wifi bridge and offers a lot more to boot.
 
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