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Epic vs F65

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To say that this is reduser and so therefore your should pretend no other cameras exist is not very helpful to the actual Red-using community.

When you want to suggest a camera to a producer/agency/director etc. you have to defend that choice. You can't just say "Coz it's da best - end of da story" like a retarded teenager.

I think a much more mature approach would be to admit that no camera is 100% ideal all the time. Although as some of you know I feel DSLRs are ideal 0% of the time - all other cameras have a place. We own an Epic, but sometimes we still take out the EX1 (advantage speed (grab from bag and shoot), rocker-based motorized zoom lens, superlative sound quality, sometimes desirable more ENG type look with very deep DOF) and we sometimes rent a C3000 (advantage extreme low light capabilities). We also still use our Red One Mx often (advantage long interviews and other super long stuff easy to record to hard drive with more cost effective compression, no heat/fan noise issues) Most of the time, the Epic is the best choice, but not all the time, and unless you compare you cannot make an intelligent case for choosing Epic. Educated people generally do not respond well to unexplained "It rocks" type statements, or non-specific statements without explanation like "Horses for courses" without any details given.
 
Epic is way better looking . . . like an assault rifle or weapon or something. People notice my camera in public which makes me feel good. Also, RED guys outfits are cooler - like all black with combat boots, tats, heavy silver jewelry and they drive tough cars with dark tint on the windows. REDuser is a place that makes me feel safe and where no one disagrees with me.

Sony guys . . . well, not there is anything wrong with that lifestyle.
 
Rob Ruffo said:
To say that this is reduser and so therefore your should pretend no other cameras exist is not very helpful to the actual Red-using community.
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That's not what I said, and if you understand English you know it. I said, "This is as you know .... reduser.net .... so you might not find many knowledgeable F65 users here.". I then asked where one might better conduct this discussion. Someone answered "Cinematography.com". I also presented the .pdf for the F65 manual. All this was done to help aid the OP in his quest. I showed him how to get better answers, faster, for his question.
 
We all love RED but many of us use other cameras too, it's how we make a living. I think it simply comes down to this. Buy/rent what you love. Embrace and get the most of whatever camera is put in front of you when you don't have a choice, and keep an open mind throughout it all. This leads to healthier discussions, interesting discoveries, and a closer cinematography community. By embracing these tools for their strengths, we can expand the creative potentials.
 
Steve Sherrick said:
We all love RED but many of us use other cameras too, it's how we make a living. I think it simply comes down to this. Buy/rent what you love. Embrace and get the most of whatever camera is put in front of you when you don't have a choice, and keep an open mind throughout it all. This leads to healthier discussions, interesting discoveries, and a closer cinematography community. By embracing these tools for their strengths, we can expand the creative potentials.
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Agreed.
 
I must say, the Red is a great camera if you're on a budget or need 48 or them, but I'd take an f65 over it any day. The rotating shutter kills almost all rolling shutter artifacts, It balances a lot better on a Steadicam, and it doesn't crash! Every time I've used a red, there's been some sort of firmware problem. I've never had any issues with an Alexa and I'm sure the F65 won't have any problems.
I'm sorry, but you get what you pay for.
 
It depends what you really need.

For me EPIC HDRx alone kills all other competition by long shot even if price is not a factor.

Shutter speed was never a problem.

Add modularity and upgradability.

Stay away from beta firmware if you don’t know how to handle hot girls.

And it is what makes this camera interesting, you can actually have an input to the creation of it.
This camera is made for its users, the other cameras attract users made for the camera.
 
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