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EPIC-M Monochrome

Tom Lowe said:
I used the IR Red One to shoot extensive sequences for a movie coming out next year. It's an amazing type of cinematography. A lot of the rules we tend to live by go out the window when shooting IR.

Jarred, do you have any plans, as of right now, to convert one of these monochrome cameras to IR and rent it out?
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Sure... give me reason to and I will build one and i will let you test it :)
 
Is there a benefit shooting IR, or is it just a personal preference.

I lose knowledge in the still photography area...
 
WHAT IF? You had a “Monochromatic Epic M or X Camera”, it had a “Dragon Sensor”, it was able to record “Three Different HDRx” images simultaneously onto a single R3D File (Three Stripe B&W), each of the “Three Images” onto the one Monochromatic Sensor. You would then have a Technicolor Process 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_splitter) or whatever you wanted to call-it, on your hands. Or any combination thereof. Just a thought!

Humberto Rivera
 
Humberto Rivera said:
WHAT IF? You had a “Monochromatic Epic M or X Camera”, it had a “Dragon Sensor”, it was able to record “Three Different HDRx” images simultaneously onto a single R3D File (Three Stripe B&W), each of the “Three Images” onto the one Monochromatic Sensor. You would then have a Technicolor Process 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_splitter) or whatever you wanted to call-it, on your hands. Or any combination thereof. Just a thought!

Humberto Rivera
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Someone is doing something similar right now with normal Epics and a 3ality 3D rig set to zero IO and zero Convergence.. basically using it as a 2D beam splitter.
 
Congrats on the B&W.. You guys never stop pushing the limits there at RED.. I hope you never stop.

If there were a Epic IR camera, Im sure I could get my producer type folks at Survivor to test some of that on the beach in real world testing.
Let me know when one is up and running, I would be very curious to see what it can do. Im sure it would blow away what ever we are using now. And be a lot more user friendly to operate.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Meh... Not really the best comparison. I think it would have been a lot more valuable to see the Leica M compared directly to the new Leica M-M. Or at least adapt a single lens to be used between the two cameras for the test. At first glance, one would really like to think the Leica M is blowing the Nikon out of the water in terms of resolvability and sharpness, especially since its images were being up-scaled for most comparisons. However, they put a notoriously shitty lens on that Nikon which makes excessively soft images with poor contrast, while the Leica used one of the finest lenses in the world.

That said, on a per-pixel basis, the Leica should win out if all other things are equal - same lens, etc.. There's still a lot possible with the processing of the image and the extra resolution gained from the Nikon D800 can go a long way toward making a more equivalent final image between the two.

Anyway, drifting OT... I'm liking the EPIC-M/M! I don't have enough reasons to justify getting one myself, but I definitely support this! :)
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This is another discussion of the Monochrome...and there are 12 pages of M9 prior....

http://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M-Mon...inder-Camera-black-and-white-sensor-page.html


Would so love to see an upgrade path Epic to Epic Mono....be there in a heartbeat.

Bob
 
Jarred so your comment was really about it. :) couldn't truly believe it. This is awesome news. Can't wait to see its results!
Cheers for doing this! This will be a go-to camera for a lot of photographers as well! Especially with that Leica mount ;)
 
Ikonoscope did the same thing not long ago... not 5k and not FF sensor but sampling the sensor raw with no colorfilters infront.. It's the Acam panchromatic. see link: http://www.ikonoskop.com/a-cam-dii-pancromatic/

Question what is the name of that sensor that actually have rgb in each pixel. I think it was fuijon or something like it. They only came out with rather small sensors and with not to high resolution, but since they where true in resolution they did not have any color fresning in hard edges and such. Would love to see red develop that kind of sensor further if it was possible and ditch the CMOS.
 
Perhaps you are thinking about the Foveon sensor that Sigma was using?

Björn Benckert said:
Ikonoscope did the same thing not long ago... not 5k and not FF sensor but sampling the sensor raw with no colorfilters infront.. It's the Acam panchromatic. see link: http://www.ikonoskop.com/a-cam-dii-pancromatic/

Question what is the name of that sensor that actually have rgb in each pixel. I think it was fuijon or something like it. They only came out with rather small sensors and with not to high resolution, but since they where true in resolution they did not have any color fresning in hard edges and such. Would love to see red develop that kind of sensor further if it was possible and ditch the CMOS.
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Humberto Rivera said:
WHAT IF? You had a “Monochromatic Epic M or X Camera”, it had a “Dragon Sensor”, it was able to record “Three Different HDRx” images simultaneously onto a single R3D File (Three Stripe B&W), each of the “Three Images” onto the one Monochromatic Sensor. You would then have a Technicolor Process 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technicolor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_splitter) or whatever you wanted to call-it, on your hands. Or any combination thereof. Just a thought!

Humberto Rivera
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the hdrx streams are only for recording different levels of light... there is no way that i know about that a single sensor could filter different wavelengths of light at the same time (except through a bayer pattern). as jarred mentioned, you could use a beamsplitter with color filters (blocking certain wavelengths) to create a two-strip process. or if you had a 3-way beamsplitter you could do the full 3-strip. and the images would be awesome.
 
As I said; WHAT IF? That’s in the spirit of Experimentation; I just thought that it CAN-BE software driven (Three HDRx images in one R3D file) in one camera, rather than hardware. What is between the Lens and the Camera need to be worked out? But think about-it, One Camera, One Lens, Technicolor Process 4, it’s worth a look!

Humberto Rivera
 
The Epic-M is already being called out as a hoax on CML...
 
As SSD cards become bigger and faster, it’s conceivable that three HRDx images fit into one R3D file. If they could work out a solution in the 40’s, think of what they could do NOW! What was hard to-do; was coming up a monochromatic camera that has a good ASA/ISO, that is very sharp, and can render a good image. Just saying!

Humberto Rivera
 
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