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Element T Panavision Mount...

So, when can we expect this to start shipping? I can't wait to try PV anamorphics...
 
I don't want to do Element Technica's job for them, but this thread has gone a while without an update, and the PV mount now appears on their website!

Excited...

I've always been attracted to Panavision glass, but will they rent them to me without one of their cameras? And is it true that they're Panavising Red Ones now? Gotta go see the rep tomorrow I think...

The link: http://www.elementtechnica.com/products/view.php?p=97
 
Someone please explain to me... is this the Panavision PV mount? Which is the only Panavision mount, correct? So all Panavision lenses are game now?

Ryan S said:
but will they rent them to me without one of their cameras?
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Yea, but I guess so, or ET wouldn't have made them.

Ryan S said:
And is it true that they're Panavising Red Ones now?
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I was also surprised when I heard that. If I remember correctly I think it was confirmed here by someone from Panavision Australia, several months ago. Also, they had apparently been doing Reds for a while before that in Australia, or Europe can't remember. I guess it is going to be pretty sick once the FF35 comes out if any of those Anamorphics cover the sensor. I can only dream to be so lucky. I haven't seen any but it does make me want to drop in and ask about them, hopefully see one, ask about their lens rates.

I would love to hear more about these ET mounts... I know too little about this stuff and would really appreciate a little more conversation on the mount itself and the lenses that become available... any side effects, limitations, lack thereof.

This sounds weird, but is the mount two pieces with one being screwed onto the camera "permanently" and an other having to be switched from lens to lens as you swap them?
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
Yea, but I guess so, or ET wouldn't have made them.
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True! I had been thinking of it as a specialty item for those rare few who do manage to get a hold of Panavision glass before it's destroyed, but that would be a ridiculous reason to go through the effort of engineering this mount.

Roberto Lequeux said:
I guess it is going to be pretty sick once the FF35 comes out if any of those Anamorphics cover the sensor. I can only dream to be so lucky.
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My thoughts exactly. I just watched Die Hard tonight for the first time, and was salivating over those flares.

The lens mount does appear to be two pieces, as you describe. I'm going to shoot ET an email for more info...
 
Panavision FFD

Panavision FFD

Folks;
To answer the question posted earlier about how many PV mounts there are:
There are two: Panavision mount for 35mm and 65mm cameras, and the so-called "Elaine" or Panaflex-16 mount for their super-16 system. Not much used nowadays.

As a former Panavision agency manager, I have a few innocent questions and observations:

-Does ET plan to offer an FFD (Flang Focal Distance) regulating tool, similar to the RED Null to regulate the lens mount ? PV FFD is 2.2494" inches. Way different than Arriflex PL in optical terms. You are not going to have an easy- to-find test lens lying around in PV mount to do a rough check with. You don't want to be "at sea" with an unconfirmed lens mount on your camera, and expensively rented lenses on the clock. I doubt Panavision will want to be in the business of checking your camera for you. Not sure if even they have the means yet.

-PV lenses are an enormous horde, the most mixed up of mixed bags. Optical performance and "look"varies wildly among them. It was not unusual for a feature DP to test for more than a week to arrive at a choice of primes whose results could be predicted. Assistants used to keep secret crib notes containing serial numbers of favorite lenses. It was insane.

They first tried to solve this issue by having Zeiss make lenses for them, this resulted in the so-called "Z-Series" and goes from 14mm to 85mm. Very few were produced. Finally, John Farrand and Co. engaged what was then Hughs-Leitz of Canada (now ELCAN) to design state of the art lenses (Primos) from scratch. Then they hired the brilliant designer and made him a VP, (Mr. Ian Neill) and the rest is, well, you know....
 
It is two pieces much the way a PL mount is two pieces. A surface plate and a locking nut. You don't particularly take them apart.

I would say that this is something for a rental house to swap back & forth, or for a camera to be semi-permanently switched to PV mount. Abel has PV mounts for some of our cameras, such as the Aaton 35-3, Aaton Penelope and Vision Research Phantom. It is not an impossibility to swap between them but it certainly takes very particular precision tools.

Charles, thanks for the shout out on the NULL. You'll all be hearng more about it again soon.
 
Panavision does have Reds, used them a few times now (out of Panavision Hollywood).
 
Just called Woodland Hills and they do have reds, atm they are out of Primos due to TV season and a few features, they have rented Primos and other lenses without bodies before but obviously not when they were needed for their cameras, and they never rented lenses alone at any sort of discounted long-term rates.
 
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