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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Dragon...

Josh,

Shoot in 5k, you already got the camera, it's worth the investment, you won't always be young, make those shots last a lifetime.

Josh Beadle said:
Would like a solid time frame on Epic Dragon so I can plan my underwater housing, lighting etc path. I thought the NAB timeline was by year end. With uncertainty I will probably go the Canon 1Dc route since the housing that fits my 1Dx will also fit that. ISO320 doesn't cut it at 60' under water or in caves lit by portables so I need to make a move soon for a project filming in February.
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The Dragon sensor release won't coincide with the year of the Dragon?

Jarred Land said:
I would like to think that we are very good.. if not the very best, at missing every single one of our deadlines.
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THE GUYS OVER AT PANAVISION ARE CRYING FOUL!!! LOL, They told me they are getting killed in their camera rental dept. because everyone seems to be going for RED and Alexa. They still dont rent glass unless you rent their cameras so, I guess they still have the 50' techno cranes and camera support side of the biz. LOL
 
Jarred Land said:
It wont be by feb so you are best to start thinking about your plan B. Sensors and the other bits needed to do the upgrade are on track to start coming out later next month as planned, but we need to wait for the new ASIC, which will be well into march, and then the upgrade process begins which will take some time. Realistically.. and its just a guess with so many balls in the air, you are probably looking around NAB time.
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Thank you for the clarity and continued efforts. Would have rather heard CES than NAB though (wink)
 
Jarred Land said:
More than 15...
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Since I have poor math skills "More than 15" must be 16, but since you reported that you had to make
new ASICs to handle better than expected sensors, I'm leaning more towards 16+.

:)
 
Dan Frenkel said:
THE GUYS OVER AT PANAVISION ARE CRYING FOUL!!! LOL, They told me they are getting killed in their camera rental dept. because everyone seems to be going for RED and Alexa. They still dont rent glass unless you rent their cameras so, I guess they still have the 50' techno cranes and camera support side of the biz. LOL
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I thought panavision rented out both "panavised" epics and alexas, no?
 
Phil Holland said:
Yep. And a few others in there too.
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So why is Dan stating that they are "crying fools"? I think they got a quite solid business idea that more should benefit from following, which seams to be to: only rent out full camera packages and make sure quality is better than what others can offer and then charge for it. Or is there not any people willing to pay for that sort of things any more?
 
Björn Benckert said:
So why is Dan stating that they are "crying fools"? I think they got a quite solid business idea that more should benefit from following, which seams to be to: only rent out full camera packages and make sure quality is better than what others can offer and then charge for it. Or is there not any people willing to pay for that sort of things any more?
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I'm not sure, but PV has a LOT of Epics at their disposal worldwide as well as service and support. I don't think they are crying fools. Their support are hardworking folks too. They rent them out with custom mounts to use their glass. You can't rent their glass (usually) without a body. They also have a great deal of custom kit bits that I like. I think the dynamic change has been more of the transition from film to digital and PV only makes one camera that isn't the most popular girl at the dance. Although she works in TV a bit out here still.

I was there before Thanksgiving and regularly swing by. The new location in Woodland Hills is pretty nice too. Stage 1 will be missed though.
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Phil Holland said:
I'm not sure, but PV has a LOT of Epics at their disposal worldwide as well as service and support. I don't think they are crying fools. Their support are hardworking folks too. They rent them out with custom mounts to use their glass. You can't rent their glass (usually) without a body. They also have a great deal of custom kit bits that I like. I think the dynamic change has been more of the transition from film to digital and PV only makes one camera that isn't the most popular girl at the dance. Although she works in TV a bit out here still.

I was there before Thanksgiving and regularly swing by. The new location in Woodland Hills is pretty nice too. Stage 1 will be missed though.
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CORRECTION TO PEOPLE MIS-STATING ME (ITS CRYING FOUL) NOT FOOLS!!!! What I meant by that is the very expensive PANAVISION PANAFLEX 35MM are staying at home a bit more lately, nobody is asking her out anymore!!! LOL....Dont be so serious guys!!! -RESPECTS
 
Ah gotcha. I actually think they are doing a pretty good job at keeping their core business strategy in place while this transition to digital capture becomes more and more popular. And a lot of that PV glass looks really nice on Epic. There are now a lot more owner/operators out there and I know that's been another big swing in the industry.

Back to Dragon though. Toes wigglin' just thinking about that latitude.
 
Isn't 18 more than 15 too? hehehe - aaaah one can dream right?

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Since 15+ has been announced since NAB we might even get lucky and get a different number before the plus sign. Every stop + is worth a loud Boooooyah ! I might even throw in a raised fist.
 
Just for the record, I'm going to guess that 15+ means somewhere between 15 and 16 stops...

And I think that deserves a booyah and a raised fist!
 
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