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Dragon Lens Coverage Information

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Mark Toia said:
I gave up on 18mm lenses long ago Ketch, never liked the lens distortion on any of them... 25mm on the 6k looks like a 21mm now. thats my new wide. :)
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Same thoughts over here too.

I think another thing to consider is going to be people working for a 16x9 delivery for UHD screens too. That 6K HD and near 5.5K resolution is going to be a very commonly used format, especially for broadcast.


Mark Toia said:
Great work mate.
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Cheers and beer for you sir!
 
Phil Holland said:
Hmm. Somebody went sniffing and attempting to correct my color work no less.
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Sorry, Phil...just couldn't resist posting it here. I'll take it off my post if you want.

Thank you for all hard work and sharing the results with us all.
 
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Brian Merlen said:
Can we get a list of the cheap lenses that do cover going?

CP2s?

CP2 super speeds?

Xenon Full Frames?

Canon Cine?

and do all the focal lengths cover for all the above options?

There are options out there that should cover that aren't all DSLR glass (and all the mechanical issues associated with their usage)... I am just getting ready to invest in glass after my Epic and Dragon upgrades and I'd like to verify for those looking to purchase full frame entry level cinema glass what our best options are... Thanks
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Absolutely. Those I can actually pretty much drop the info on now as I've tested them not on Dragon, but elsewhere.

Zeiss CP.2 Primes - All lenses cover Dragon 6K, except for the 18mm. That does cover 5.5K however.
Zeiss CP.2 Super speed Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
Schneider Xenon-FF Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
Canon CN-E Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.

I'll add that to the top.
 
Phil, do you happen to have the Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM?
From what I've seen, it's super-sharp all around.
I wonder what would come-out when combining this baby with the EPIC Dragon...
 
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The 300mm f/2.8L IS II certainly covers. I'm actually rather impressed by the 400mm f/2.8L IS II. The new stabilization on that thing is wonderful.

However, I have to say for cinema use the 300mm T2.9 Red Pro Prime might be the deal of a lifetime really.
 
What about the CP2 15mm?

Oh and as a broke guy I am really kind of stoked that all these cheap lenses will cover! Cuz the reality is to even move away from DSLR glass I'd be moving right into the entry level Cine glass market, so to have so many inexpensive options is really kind of neat! Cuz they are all soo cheap that for a set of expensive lenses one can afford to own ALL the sets of entry level FF cine glass!

Phil Holland said:
Absolutely. Those I can actually pretty much drop the info on now as I've tested them not on Dragon, but elsewhere.

Zeiss CP.2 Primes - All lenses cover Dragon 6K, except for the 18mm. That does cover 5.5K however.
Zeiss CP.2 Super speed Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
Schneider Xenon-FF Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.
Canon CN-E Primes - Covers all Epic Dragon formats.

I'll add that to the top.
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Comparing the Canon 300mm and 400mm (both L f/2.8 IS II USM) on this site, it looks like the 300mm is just a tad sharper, especially in the corners (throughout the aperture range).
Hover your mouse on and off the test charts to see the difference. You can select to add a 1.4x or 2x extender on these lenses.
I don't have any experience with the RPP 300mm, so can't compare really. The price is definitely attractive ($5950).
 
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Brian Merlen said:
What about the CP2 15mm?
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It will cover. The only CP.2 that has FF35 coverage issues is the 18. IMO, now that the 15 is available and since there are a number of great lenses in the set, I don't see why anyone would ever buy the 18mm. The 18mm CP is a complete turd and a huge blemish on what is mostly a rather good set of lenses. Oh, and get the 50mm T2 macro instead of the faster 50mm prime. The T2 macro version is miles ahead as an all-around better lens, the other is just "meh..."
 
Phil,

Are you going to cover stills glass here as well ? (as it is a DSMC system)

I'm pretty sure all my old FF Nikon and Leica R glass will cover 6k. Canon too.

or are you just testing cinema specific glass?

David
 
Hey guys for wides, don't forget the Tokina/Duclos 11-16 covers FULL FRAME at 16mm, so that's another great WIDE option for Dragon 6k. It may even cover Dragon further down the zoom range...at 14mm or 13mm...someone would need to check.
 
Thanks Phil.

Are Zoom lenses being added or do we have to make a test for them specifically?
 
We should get a stick for this thread under in the Lens section as well.
 
Here's a quick question for people like me opting for the scarlet dragon route. Does anyone know how much the field of view will change going from 4k mx to 5k dragon? I know it won't be as wide as 5k mx right now, but will it be a bit wider, like 4.x k?
 
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