Dragon and Leica lenses...

[Shervin Mandgaryan]

Newb question. So will I still get some amazing results using master primes at 6k?

Actually no... your Master Primes are now rendered worthless and must be surrendered to the new Leica supreme authority to be melted down and turned into Coke bottles. Just kidding

 

[Matt Ryan]

what about the MASTER PRIMES, DO THEY COVER?


THANK YOU FO EVERYTHING

I believe when we tested the 35 and up covers, but below that was sketch. 18 didn't cover and can't remember if the 25 did or not.

 

[Jannard]

Tested on what?

Jim

I believe when we tested the 35 and up covers, but below that was sketch. 18 didn't cover and can't remember if the 25 did or not.

 

[Matt Ryan]

Tested on what?

Jim

http://matthayslett.com/salt-iii-high-speed-lens-shootout-wfo/

High speed lens shootout Will and I put together at your studio and at Duclos. At that time we just had prelim Dragon coverage info so we tested. Didn't have an actual Dragon.

 

[Brice Ansel]

And no matter what you use you get the dynamic range advantage of the Dragon. The Leicas are just the best of the best.

Jim

Glad to hear I'm lense futur proof.
Just wondering if my CZ Contax will do as well as my Leica's.
B.

 

[Shawn Nelson]

Will my RPPS cover 6k on Dragon?

 

[Phil Holland]

http://matthayslett.com/salt-iii-high-speed-lens-shootout-wfo/

High speed lens shootout Will and I put together at your studio and at Duclos. At that time we just had prelim Dragon coverage info so we tested. Didn't have an actual Dragon.

Yes, but as that wasn't exactly the best way to test that then we didn't make accurate notes on coverage and due to a variety of other variables we really needed to test them on Dragon, which is why that wasn't published.

However, somewhat recently we did actually test coverage on most modern day primes with Dragon. Waiting on Jarred to release that info officially.

Zooms are next.

 

[Asif Limbada]

Apart from the Image coverage, the pure handling and size is phenomenal. And don't get me started on the sharpness, non-existent CA, skin tones and that filmic focus fall off all of which combines to give sharp and organic imagery. Makes it "Film" as I put it :yesnod:

Its as if Master Primes and Cooke's were combined, with all the good characteristics from each of them.

 

[David (dudi) Namir]

As we have two sets of the Leica Summilux-C maybe now that the Dragon is out I should get an Epic?
A link to a commercial we just shot recently. 2 days, 2 Epics, 1 Flex, set Leica Van diemen, Century lightweight zoom 17-35mm on a steadycam, Cooke 25-250 MK3 and a few GoPro (the gadget camera).
Sprite summer 2013 shot at the dead sea Israel.
https://vimeo.com/71562905
By the way we are going to have our 29mm and 65mm very soon.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Agreed Asif...

I smell Zeiss working on making Arri a new set of Master Primes (mini)...

 

[Matt Ryan]

Yes, but as that wasn't exactly the best way to test that then we didn't make accurate notes on coverage and due to a variety of other variables we really needed to test them on Dragon, which is why that wasn't published.

However, somewhat recently we did actually test coverage on most modern day primes with Dragon. Waiting on Jarred to release that info officially.

Zooms are next.

Obviously, but we tested the only way we could at that time with the only information we had... I didn't say it was definitive, but believe me I took notes...

Testing on camera is the best way, lucky you got to do that. I would have loved an invite

 

[paulherrin]

pics or it didn't happen, jim

hehe, but seriously

 

[David Collard]

Yes... absolutely. And at 6K.

You will also get great results with Ultra Primes at 5.5K. And good results with Canon and Nikon mount lenses at 6K.

I am just talking the best of the best.

Jim

Thanks for clarifying this point.

 

[Phil Holland]

To add to the Leica talk. The Summicron-C primes are "supposed" to be rather lovely as well. There's a few folks who have them pre-ordered. Can't wait to see those.

 

[Lee Saxon]

...including a couple of "intimate" tests.

You used them to make a sex tape?!?!

 

[jamesbridges]

When Jim said Leica, did he mean the "Cinema" and or the "Still" lenses?
Just checking....

 

[Phil Holland]

You used them to make a sex tape?!?!

You don't want to see how I handle a lens

By intimate tests though, I mean spending some quality time with them. Usually this involves me going to a quite place and stress testing them under various lighting conditions. It's me time. Technical note taking time. More somewhat "emotional" time as well. Learning the feel of the glass.

It's a difficult subject, but besides purely looking at technical performance, there's a good deal of somewhat intangible things to be learned from a set of glass.

I've been pretty fortunate in my career to have shot with damn near every prime lens available (and some not). Zooms however, particularly in the last two years, have been what I've been working on learning about lately. The problem these days, is every 5 minutes ( <-- exaggeration ) a new lens hits the market!

 

[Brice Ansel]

When Jim said Leica, did he mean the "Cinema" and or the "Still" lenses?
Just checking....

You are probably right about the cine lenses VS Still lenses.
Leica R shoudn't be that bad thought.
B.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

When Jim said Leica, did he mean the "Cinema" and or the "Still" lenses?
Just checking....

I am most positive He meant the Leica Summilux Cine Primes, as the Leica M mounted on the RED M mount don't fit at the wide range.

The 50mm Noctilux was the wider I mounted successfully on the RED Epic, the Leica M still glass is the best 35mm glass out there, but unfortunately does not offer a wide angle options for the Epic at this time.

 

[David Kellermann]

If anyone is interested... I'm in talks with some companies (Van Diemen, Eastern Enterprises, GL optics...) about a group buy of completely rehoused Leica still lenses. More info in this thread.