Does anybody realy need QUAD BATTERY MODULE?

[Alexey Datsenko]

Could you explain me please who really need QUAD battеry module?
It is so bulky so uncomfortable! I see everybodies from STAGE 3 are selling it for arround 1200. It is means nobody really needs it! Whay RED produce it?

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Could you explain me please who really need QUAD battеry module?
It is so bulky so uncomfortable! I see everybodies from STAGE 3 are selling it. Whay RED produce it?

You are asking the wrong questions!

Wait and see how many will regret having sold it once they see how absolutely indispensable becomes with TWO hot-swappable XL REDVOLTS.

Yet just like any tool, it has its uses, those that can't afford to have all the tools they will chose which one is best for them, unfortunately most of the time, this are new users, and don't even know what is really best for them.

I find that having the Side grip with the super small REDVOLT, makes the camera super light small and portable, yet you deal with a very short 15/20 minutes run time then the camera must be shot down for a battery change.

Then you can use the Side grip with the small Redvolt, with a V Battery and they are hot-swappable, giving you more flexibility.

Then you have the Quad Module with either now 4 small Redvolts, or 2 XL Redvolts and you have power to spare.


Each situation and set up with each particular piece of gear presents its pro and con, either small form and less power time or larger form and a much longer power time, you choose based on needs of your shoot, if you have the tools you can, if you don't, well, you can't...


Oh and also the Quad Battery Module, with Wooden Camera's great Top plate, becomes an incredible great extra real estate to mount all kind of things on it, not to mention a better balance for the camera in a shoulder mount configuration...

 

[Bob Gundu]

It was also bad timing on RED's part. People got their cameras but there was no way to power them. The side handle was so backordered that customers were forced to look at alternatives. Now Stage 3 customers have been using the AB or V mount and are simply selling their Quads because they don't need them. Nothing wrong with the Quad. A new RED customer today that does not have an existing power solution would most likely get one.

 

[Jeff Whitehurst]

Could you explain me please who really need QUAD battеry module?
It is so bulky so uncomfortable! I see everybodies from STAGE 3 are selling it for arround 1200. It is means nobody really needs it! Whay RED produce it?

I needed it, that's why I just bought one. What I didn't need was a VMount battery sticking up past the top of the brain, or a second battery and charging system to buy and keep up with. Rear mounted bricks means no more DSMC modules can attach to the back, or I would need rails or a rig to mount it out of the way to and a length of cable between the battery and the brain. Understood that bricks are industry standard and commonly found on sets and in rental kits, operators mount them for counter weight or offload some weight from the rig. That doesn't matter to me, though, so I bought the quad. Like Ketch said, the more tools available the better. The quad is a tool that uses the same battery as the sidehandle and the upcoming dual module I ordered, so to me it made perfect sense to invest in the quad.

 

[Mark Phelan]

Like Ketch said, I'm using it with two XL batteries and like the little bugger. It's essentially a RED One now, but all built in. I can still take it off and run lean and mean with just the side handle and the Redvolts should I so choose. But as I mentioned in another thread, the flat top of the quad module makes for a dandy Lectrosonics receiver holder with a touch of velcro. So far, I'm liking it and the Quad chargers very much.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I don't understand why so many people are selling these... The quad battery module is awesome. Great form factor, hot-swappable batteries. The XL batteries are great. We'll soon have the +1 module adapter to fit between the camera and the battery (and other) modules that will add both a monitor port and power port.

I think a lot of people are going to regret selling these. Biggest reason I see for people selling them is because they already have battery/power solutions for their cameras and just don't see why they need another system. Too many are not giving it a chance, IMO. It's not that bulky or uncomfortable. The EPIC/SCARLET are still small cameras for what they do, even after adding the battery module. Of course, that's subjective. Many of my DSLR-shooter friends who have used my EPIC or have purchased a Scarlet don't feel that way. They think they're huge and would never touch a larger camera like an Alexa or F65. Then I also point out that they're the guys buying rigs from Zacuto and others where they add WEIGTS to the rig to add counterbalance and/or inertia to those practically weightless DSLR cameras. Battery module is a less awkward or bulky solution than sticking a large V-mount or AB battery on the back of the camera. But that's just my thoughts... Love the REDVOLT chargers too...

There's also the upcoming dual battery module too.

 

[John Marchant]

If people want to offload their 'pointless' gear who am I to argue I'm sure people are happy with the $1k or less the market is standing right now, as much as I'm happy to grab their modules at a good price. Each to their own

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

I do agree wit that sentiment too, John. I picked up a new quad battery module and adapter for cheap to go with my EPIC-M.

If people want to sell them, that's their choice. I just think it's kinda odd how everyone just flooded the market with them.

 

[Rick Darge]

No regrets on my end... Epic takes 10 seconds to boot up..

You are asking the wrong questions!

Wait and see how many will regret having sold it once they see how absolutely indispensable becomes with TWO hot-swappable XL REDVOLTS.

Yet just like any tool, it has its uses, those that can't afford to have all the tools they will chose which one is best for them, unfortunately most of the time, this are new users, and don't even know what is really best for them.

I find that having the Side grip with the super small REDVOLT, makes the camera super light small and portable, yet you deal with a very short 15/20 minutes run time then the camera must be shot down for a battery change.

Then you can use the Side grip with the small Redvolt, with a V Battery and they are hot-swappable, giving you more flexibility.

Then you have the Quad Module with either now 4 small Redvolts, or 2 XL Redvolts and you have power to spare.


Each situation and set up with each particular piece of gear presents its pro and con, either small form and less power time or larger form and a much longer power time, you choose based on needs of your shoot, if you have the tools you can, if you don't, well, you can't...


Oh and also the Quad Battery Module, with Wooden Camera's great Top plate, becomes an incredible great extra real estate to mount all kind of things on it, not to mention a better balance for the camera in a shoulder mount configuration...

 

[Tim Bradley]

Its great to have options for everything including power. Every Epic I have seen has had a slightly different setup. This means we can all have the exact setup that works best for us and the work we do. I will hold on to the quad module, but don't expect I will use it too often, but will be very happy to have it.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

No regrets on my end... Epic takes 10 seconds to boot up..

Good, but it means that you don't work or have worked yet on a demanding set and or situation were you don't have the luxury to power down and up ever so often.


Most importantly they are situations were you absolutely need to avoid power down do to luck of power, in the middle of a SHOT.

At which point you either have both the side grip and a V Battery or AB Battery mount as well to hot swap, or you just need to power down for battery change, which in my world of course is not an option, I power down the camera when I want to, not when the camera wants to or needs to for luck of power...

 

[Björn Benckert]

Have it love it. also got the quad charger and 2 xl and the side handle, putting it all together is epic on steroids.

Ordered the pro IO and can't wait to get it.

Will order +1 monitor/EVF/ power out also-
Will order Wireless video module as well.
Will order the additional SSD slot when there is firmware that can use it any fancy way, like adding lowers proxy files, inearthea moment data. HDRx layer data etc.
Will probably not order the meissler module since if it puts a halt to adding any of the above. find it odd that it's form factor is... bricked with a... brick.

I think when more modules come out, people that has their V locks screwed right to the back of the camera will regret that they did not save the quad bat. Since it so nice to have the side handle to
keep the camera alive and then be able to a charge XL's and small volts all with the same charger to keep the camera alive for a full day. We got 12 volts and 2 XL's and two travel chargers and the quad... that leaves all possible options for power....

Have a few requests though. A volt belt. Where it's possible att attach one or more volts and XL's.
19mm and 15mm volt plate that has power out. So we can add a separate volt on the rails to power perfinalia, focus motor or such. the volt plate could be universal so it can sit on the belt, rods or swat rail....






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[Greg M]

Could you explain me please who really need QUAD battеry module?
It is so bulky so uncomfortable! I see everybodies from STAGE 3 are selling it for arround 1200. It is means nobody really needs it! Whay RED produce it?

I never really understood all the complaints about the quad module. Stage two owners didnt really pay for it to begin with. It was included in a heavily discounted package.
Although its not my most used option, it definitely comes in handy. And since the reality is I got it for free with my Stage 2 Epic, Im keeping it for those instances when it could be very useful.

I think if Red would have charged us full price for stage 2 up front, then shipped the module when it was ready there would have been a lot less complaining.

 

[Seth Larney]

I never really understood all the complaints about the quad module. Stage two owners didnt really pay for it to begin with. It was included in a heavily discounted package.
Although its not my most used option, it definitely comes in handy. And since the reality is I got it for free with my Stage 2 Epic, Im keeping it for those instances when it could be very useful.

I think if Red would have charged us full price for stage 2 up front, then shipped the module when it was ready there would have been a lot less complaining.

I agree fully.

I also second what others have said here already (Ketch is pretty much always on the money). There are many different types and levels of a "professional" set environment. Each with their own set of expectations and requirements. Even a single production's requirements change from location to location. Not really more to say than that. The side-handle config with nothing on the back is a godsend and a revolution in certain setups, whereas in a more studio-geared setup the quad module really comes into its own. etc etc.

I'm a drama director, many others will have many more and different reasons why more options are good for them.

 

[Sid Idris]

I almost purchased a quad module for under 1k but after some thought I decided to go with the vmount and use the sidehandle for hotswapping. I was surprised to see that two XL volts only provide slightly more power than one 150Wh vmount brick. In the end the redvolt solution seems like a case of much ado about nothing.

 

[Bob Gundu]

Of course, they are have the size of a V mount battery.

I almost purchased a quad module for under 1k but after some thought I decided to go with the vmount and use the sidehandle for hotswapping. I was surprised to see that two XL volts only provide slightly more power than one 150Wh vmount brick. In the end the redvolt solution seems like a case of much ado about nothing.

 

[Sid Idris]

Of course, they are have the size of a V mount battery.

Too bad they don't cost half as much?

 

[Jonathan Stevenson]

I don't understand why so many people are selling these... The quad battery module is awesome. Great form factor, hot-swappable batteries. The XL batteries are great. We'll soon have the +1 module adapter to fit between the camera and the battery (and other) modules that will add both a monitor port and power port.

I think a lot of people are going to regret selling these. Biggest reason I see for people selling them is because they already have battery/power solutions for their cameras and just don't see why they need another system. Too many are not giving it a chance, IMO. It's not that bulky or uncomfortable. The EPIC/SCARLET are still small cameras for what they do, even after adding the battery module. Of course, that's subjective. Many of my DSLR-shooter friends who have used my EPIC or have purchased a Scarlet don't feel that way. They think they're huge and would never touch a larger camera like an Alexa or F65. Then I also point out that they're the guys buying rigs from Zacuto and others where they add WEIGTS to the rig to add counterbalance and/or inertia to those practically weightless DSLR cameras. Battery module is a less awkward or bulky solution than sticking a large V-mount or AB battery on the back of the camera. But that's just my thoughts... Love the REDVOLT chargers too...

There's also the upcoming dual battery module too.

+1 I'm in love with my module. Works great, plus it adds more real estate to the camera for bolting on more gear

 

[Mark Toia]

I have 3 camera setups...

No. 1. is full production. all the bells and whistle, Big matt boxes, monitors, FF, preston, VLock or Battery modules, ... soon to have Mezler and what ever other modules I can stick on it. The thing is huge.

No. 2. is Half of the that... simple production.. follow focus, shoulder config....

No. 3. is my personal (home version) Camera / RED VOLT and EVF only with a slide on touch screen.. .. with some super speeds and Series 9 ND's... Tiny... simple and I hold in my hands or on a mono pod... and to be honest. my favourite camera configuration of them all.

 

[Jason Sinclair]

All i want is a simple cord which plugs directly into a redvolt with minimal size so i can put the battery where i want. With a thin cord that bends everywhere. Want to take advantage of the modular. Why is something so easy, versatile and inexpensive so hard to get hold of?