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District 9

Zakaree Sandberg said:
my question... why did the main character make grunting noises and noises like he was personally being injured while inside that mech warrior thing? it was being shot at.. NOT him, who was nestled safely inside of its armored protection.

its the little things.
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Have you ever been in a car accident? Did you grunt or groan? Little things indeed.
 
Charles Angus said:
I read a study a while back that came to the conclusion that stars have no impact on the bottom line whatsoever. The only important factors in the bottom line are marketing budget and number of screens.

Food for thought...
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Eddie Murphy's films have a major star, huge marketing budget and vast number of screens. They consistently bomb. There is no formula; make a good movie.
 
This was science FICTION. I love all the plausibility rants...

Awesome film... great story much like "The Lives of Others"...An inhuman, human becomes more human, the more he becomes more alien... hunter becomes the hunted. STELLAR performances... incredible photorealistic CGI...

or how about the subtleties like when the digital alien slaps the clipboard out of the MNU's hands? WOW moment for this D9 fan. VFX lighting and suit were off the HOOK man... breathtaking visuals. I mean the pain in the suit? HUH? A bullet proof vest stops bullets but still hurts like hell man.

Shot on RED , killer desaturated DI (disliked by many) but apropos for this shanty town film... LOVED the setting.

Drones and Queens made the aliens more insectlike and was very probable to me.
Whose to say THEY built the ship... but come on... THE END?

When he starts the ship thru a complicated maneuver of virtual controls... INFUCKINGCREDIBLE scene... like he had started that ship 1000 times. Super fast
without thinking... blew my mind man how thoughtful that VFX sequence was.

RANT: asking why aliens doing dumb things with advanced technology is the ultimate paradoxical and oxymoronic question, especially when placed in the context of the questionable things we humans do, every day.

(and we are capable of space travel, have sharks with laser beams on their heads, etc)
 
Todd M. said:
Have you ever been in a car accident? Did you grunt or groan? Little things indeed.
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Consider we now have thousands of GI's coming home from Iraq brain damaged by concussions from bomb impacts on their armored vehicles, even though they were not otherwise seriously injured.
 
Plausability aside, or.... maybe on point, if there were that many alien weapons laying around that were that potent, why hang out in shacks? Why not go "get some"! Guess that really comes down to the worker bee mentality of most of them but still............
 
Alan Skinner said:
Plausability aside, or.... maybe on point, if there were that many alien weapons laying around that were that potent, why hang out in shacks? Why not go "get some"! Guess that really comes down to the worker bee mentality of most of them but still............
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I suspect we saw a disproportionate number of alien weapons per capita. A few hundred guns are just going to be a suicide mission when confronted with an entire planet. Like... where are you going to go after you fight your way out of the compound? Zimbabwe?

And like you said worker bee mentality. It's obvious the leadership wanted to 'play it dumb' and let the guards become complacent and lazy. Better slow and safe than act rashly and risk entire operation--even if it takes 20 years. Especially when you have so few in the leadership caste you can't risk losing too many who know how to operate the escape vehicle.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
I suspect we saw a disproportionate number of alien weapons per capita. A few hundred guns are just going to be a suicide mission when confronted with an entire planet. Like... where are you going to go after you fight your way out of the compound? Zimbabwe?

And like you said worker bee mentality. It's obvious the leadership wanted to 'play it dumb' and let the guards become complacent and lazy. Better slow and safe than act rashly and risk entire operation--even if it takes 20 years. Especially when you have so few in the leadership caste you can't risk losing too many who know how to operate the escape vehicle.
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Gavin, yes, I had that thought. Keep a low profile and all.

So, are they coming back angry with lots of ships from the homeworld to teach us a lesson?...............

If I were writing it, that is what I would portend to the viewer but then I would make the "prawn" leadership on a higher plane of social responsibility. They come roaring in and it looks like the end.......then they offer the olive branch and the fighting begins.....between the earthies who want to be friends and the ones that don't......

Maybe I should stop now and wait for the sequel? :)
 
Well, if I had to try to be critical of the film (or my own talents as an audience member), The one thing I didn't understand is why there weren't swarms of helicopters and armies at the Module when it crashed. It was sitting there with no one attending to it, even though there was a news helicopter tailing it the entire time. If I was MNU I'd have 10 swat teams at the crash site within seconds.

Or maybe I missed something being distracted by the sheer awesomeness of everything else.
 
Ace said:
Well, if I had to try to be critical of the film (or my own talents as an audience member), The one thing I didn't understand is why there weren't swarms of helicopters and armies at the Module when it crashed. It was sitting there with no one attending to it, even though there was a news helicopter tailing it the entire time. If I was MNU I'd have 10 swat teams at the crash site within seconds.

Or maybe I missed something being distracted by the sheer awesomeness of everything else.
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Ace, agreed, pretty important location if you ask me. And it was left to itself.

EDIT: I really was surprised that an alien ship of advanced design did not have missile countermeasures that were totally automatic. In fact, now that I think of it, I lost the thread while watching the movie because of this one thing that should not have happened. (Earthling missile taking out an advanced craft) For goodness sakes, we have countermeasures on all of our stuff including civilian stuff now.
 
Ace said:
Well, if I had to try to be critical of the film (or my own talents as an audience member), The one thing I didn't understand is why there weren't swarms of helicopters and armies at the Module when it crashed. It was sitting there with no one attending to it, even though there was a news helicopter tailing it the entire time. If I was MNU I'd have 10 swat teams at the crash site within seconds.

Or maybe I missed something being distracted by the sheer awesomeness of everything else.
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I was wondering that at the time and my reaction was two fold:

Every single chopper was shown flying to intercept the mothership which inexplicably was on the move. I think they were more concerned about the giant km wide ship suddenly posing a thread.

and in the case of the swat teams I think they were under the impression that it was being piloted alone by the main guy and seeing as he was apprehended there was no reason to think that the module needed any attention.

I was curious about its ability to be shot down, but I was also suspicious of an alien space craft which is only capable of staying airborn with both engines operational. I chalk it up to poor piloting, I have to believe that dual power plants make it capable of sustained flight even after a burn out in one engine.

It was evident by the main character's handling of the Mech that anything he operated performed more poorly than when it was on autopilot. He probably crashed it out of panic more than the actual capabilities of the vehicle.
 
Wesley Scoggins said:
Yea it was important, he was operating the vehicles almost on instinct, they could obviously do a lot more, but he wasn't using the complete features.
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I hear the suit gets a build 23 firmware update in District 10 which enables the complete features. Its a whole new suit!
 
Ace said:
I hear the suit gets a build 23 firmware update in District 10 which enables the complete features. Its a whole new suit!
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Nah the features are already available. The suit's hardware is the same as the Tactical Suit 300D but many of the features are disabled in firmware in order to create product stratification.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3njjD41f48
 
Ace said:
Well, if I had to try to be critical of the film (or my own talents as an audience member), The one thing I didn't understand is why there weren't swarms of helicopters and armies at the Module when it crashed. It was sitting there with no one attending to it, even though there was a news helicopter tailing it the entire time. If I was MNU I'd have 10 swat teams at the crash site within seconds.

Or maybe I missed something being distracted by the sheer awesomeness of everything else.
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Hi Ace- I think you missed the beginning when they said the ship had been there for 23 years... or 28 years. I remember it was a long time and we have to fill in the blanks.... and assume the humans had plenty of time to assess the "threat".

Agreed that if we landed on another planet with say 2M mentally challenged people... and were stuck... would we take on the whole planet with our weapons? With no aerial support? Seems they were relatively a peaceful race that had weapons... not unike humans... although I would not call us a peaceful race.

Seems the leader spent 20 years trying to gather enough fluid to take off... what most of us would probably do f we found a way to refuel our ship
and it took 2 decades to get enough fuel gathered.

I only saw it once and picked all this up... why would they attack a whole planet when there was no where to go? (and who is to say they didnt attack 20 some years ago? Save they were sick and dying when they opened it.

Easy to fill those gaps really when you take in how long they were supposedly there when the movie started.

Also not one human space ship has weapons on it... save defense satellites
so assuming they would have weapons is a product of Star Trek and Star Wars... we dont know what their mission was, why they got stuck etc.

To me the movie was about the inhuman human becoming more human, the more he became alien. That is what I thought was a brilliant plot device.
 
I don't know if I agree with the inhuman becoming more human meme though.

He started out pretty likable and seemed to earnestly believe in his job and what he was doing. When he got infected then he was just really selfish and trying to use them for personal gain "It's not a suicide mission I promise." He completely manipulated the Prawn officer into helping him for the singular reason of being cured. He even beat the officer over the head when it looked like he wasn't going to be cured and then kidnapped his son. That's about as inhumane as you can get.

His redemption didn't really come until after he crashed and was about to be killed by the Nigerians and then was saved in spite of his own history of deception. The two of them came to an understanding that they both performed acts of barbarism out of desperation to save themselves and I thought it was a mutual act of guilt that brought them together. "I would do anything to be cured." "I would do anything to save my people." "Our distrust has brought nothing but suffering to both of us."
 
Tim Whitcomb said:
Hi Ace- I think you missed the beginning when they said the ship had been there for 23 years... or 28 years. I remember it was a long time and we have to fill in the blanks.... and assume the humans had plenty of time to assess the "threat".
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Yeah I was actually talking about when it lifted off and flew near the end. They sent 2 MNU, they were attacked and that was it.

I watched it the second time yesterday, and it was even better! But what I noticed was, it felt much shorter than when I experienced it the first time. This is a good thing. Because the first time around, the action and story telling was so compressed and dense that it felt like a really long movie. That is something I find lacking in current *action* films.. Too much shit about "nothing", and little meat on the bone so to speak. I find directors that come from commercial/music video backgrounds tend to have the ability to condense the story and tell it in a succinct yet totally enthralling way.
 
Ace said:
. Because the first time around, the action and story telling was so compressed and dense that it felt like a really long movie.
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I think this is also more true of intense "real time" films which play out a shorter time interval (in this case being ?72 hours?).

I felt the exact same way about about Black Hawk Down and (don't laugh!) The Hangover. So much happens in so little time and takes place over a chonologically short period that it feels really long (in a good way). When everything happens over such a short period it's almost like the brain is experiencing it in real time and it feels like you just experienced 72 hours of story instead of 90 minutes.

I don't really get the same impression from a film like Gladiator which is spread out over weeks or months.
 
Gavin Greenwalt said:
I think this is also more true of intense "real time" films which play out a shorter time interval (in this case being ?72 hours?).

I felt the exact same way about about Black Hawk Down and (don't laugh!) The Hangover. So much happens in so little time and takes place over a chonologically short period that it feels really long (in a good way). When everything happens over such a short period it's almost like the brain is experiencing it in real time and it feels like you just experienced 72 hours of story instead of 90 minutes.

I don't really get the same impression from a film like Gladiator which is spread out over weeks or months.
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Yeah you're right. Its the real time thing. But its also the fact that its so action packed and succinct.

Hangover was the same.
 
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