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Desired Changes with Scarlet..

Even with a nikon or PL mount the apparent DOF is going to be about twice what you'd have on the RED one since it's a 2/3 sensor. To get 35mm dof we'd still have to use a 35mm DOF adapter like the Letus or Brevis. But yeah, having the option to use whatever glass we like would be nice.
 
i dont think there's a competition with the red one unless they offer a PL mount.

also.. seems CF is the only recording option right now? so that right there to me at least vastly segregates the two cameras.. also.. no one is going to take many people seriously shooting a big project on a camera of this form factor... there will still be plenty of demand for the red one if scarlet has lens options.

also.. any DSLR anywhere near the $3000 range has interchangable lenses.

if they're putting this out with a still shooting option.. you need to be able to change lenses... sure it's not a pro DSLR... but it'd be laughed out even more if they're stuck with an 8x lens.

it's not a consumer camera.. my 6 year old pos sony handycam had a 10x zoom...
 
keep the fixed lens, but please for gods sake make it longer! 8x??? come on guys you can do better then that. The 180fps bursts sold me, and then I saw the 8x and was like "nope not gonna happen." altho if the rumor of a 3000ish price tag is true.... man thats hard to beat. but that short of a lens.....
 
RED needs a low end cam and Scarlet is fine,
something between Scarlet & RED for about
$5,500 is needed.
Up design the Scarlet - Nikon mount that
will accept auto-focus lenses and
shoot at least 4K stills in addition to 3K video.
 
8x??? come on guys you can do better then that.
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Red's limit might be size and weight, not cost. For a professional quality lens that covers the 2/3" sensor, more than 8x might be too heavy for a camera this size and that does not rest on the shoulder.

I think 8x is more than enough. More important is the actual focal lengths available.
 
Nikon mount...please!!!

No fixed lenses. I need options and flexibility. Selling it without a lens keeps it at a reasonable price point.
 
jmalmsten said:
The only thing I can say I'm a little dissapointed about is the lack of interchangeable lenses...

But... pffft... for that price... I'll take it, regardless of sound... I'll shoot MOS if I have to just to get all of those other stuff on Redcode Raw solid state recording... :)
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for that price? what price? where did you guys see it? somebdy please tell me how much is it.
 
you gotta look at those specs again

a 2/3 sensor that does redcode raw up to 100MB not mb with a custom designed fixed lens and 1 to 120fps for under 3k

thats unheard of. these will all be snapped up by news depts all over the world. nice and light. very high quality image , greater than hd and probably a great lens. indies will probably love it too. don't forget its a new sensor in line with the new sensor on the epic. which means it could have amazing dynamic range just lower resolution. hell 4k hasn't even hit the mainstream yet. anyone that tells me they've rather use the canon cause you can change lenses over the scarlet is either fibbing or stupid. hell george lucas shot the clone wars on a camera with a 2/3 sensor and it probably wasn't anywhere near the quality that this will be
 
course I'm wondering how the hell they are gonna manage to record 100MB to CF Cards when only one card presently is able to manage 28/36MB
 
Luzazul, there is a rumor floating around that says Scarlet will cost "under $3,000" which of course meant $2,995 or thereabouts.

I suspect they got that from Jim and in view of the specifications I think the price is realistic. I'm not sure why the price is not yet on the web site, but I notice that the site seems awfully minimalist for a product of this type, so maybe they will fill in the details as we come closer to launch.

For someone like me, who's basically a "run and gun" type of shooter, the automatic mode is great and the ability to be more artistic with a manual mode without actually having to do that all the time is great. Interchangeable lenses would have almost certainly meant an all-manual camera, which just would not have been good for run and gun.

I think the idea of this camera was not to compete with RED ONE, but rather to be a good option for highest possible quality run and gun. And looking at this, it seems nearly ideal for the job.

D
 
Audio

Audio

I'd love the nikon mount option too, but at this price (if the reports are correct), I'd be fine using a dof adapter (redrock, brevis, etc.).

But what I'm most concerned about is the lack of audio information on the pdf. I'm hoping it's just been left out of the pdf materials to keep them brief. If not, the starting price goes up, if you have to buy or rent a sound recorder.

-Geoff
 
The lens must come off one way or another

The lens must come off one way or another

jaadgy akanni said:
I'd pay $1k-$2k more if I had the option to change lenses. As it stands right now, I'm disappointed and not interested at all.
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The front of the camera MUST be within 10mm of the sensor face so that the lens mount can be changed, or that zoom pulled of so that prime lenses can be used. If they set the sensor too far back in the camera case, it would be a mess to have to saw off much of the front of the camera, I hope they do not mess up this for marketing... that would just lose sales.
 
combatentropy said:
Red's limit might be size and weight, not cost. For a professional quality lens that covers the 2/3" sensor, more than 8x might be too heavy for a camera this size and that does not rest on the shoulder.

I think 8x is more than enough. More important is the actual focal lengths available.
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well said dude..

But she could be smaller for a fixed lens cam, something really pocket :-P, just hope its wiiiide very wiiide built in glass.
 
I'd settle for Scarlet as it is, I like the auto shoot mode, and just some sort of super wide angle adapter from red.
 
The junk market?

The junk market?

WesVasher said:
I say keep the fixed lens for the market they are targeting.
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Why would somebody who makes a good, professional camera want to target those who use zoom lenses? They can buy a Sony to get the cromatic aberrations they crave.
 
red vs. sony

red vs. sony

oldphart said:
Why would somebody who makes a good, professional camera want to target those who use zoom lenses? They can buy a Sony to get the cromatic aberrations they crave.
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red is targeting sony directly. why try to outsell the f-23 or f-35 when you can try to outsell the xdcam-ex? fixed lens, 2/3" chip, on-board lcd, solid state recording, handheld-very close to the ex. now add 3k, 100MB/sec, raw at half the price and you have scarlet.

i'll buy one based more on competitive principles than a real need or desire for one.
 
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