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Delays and Frustration...

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Jannard said:
You all have the absolute right to be sad and frustrated over the delays. It really doesn't matter that I posted "Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..." at the bottom of every post. We did post a schedule, tentative or not. We all made plans based on this hopeful schedule. I am frustrated. I am embarrassed and I am irritated that it has taken us so long to get the job done. I should have known better. This is a helluva challenge that we started from ground zero. I was nuts to think we could do it properly in this amount of time, let alone several months less.

I can only hope that all the waiting will be forgotten after all our customers get their cameras. Please take solace (I do) in the fact that the camera does things no other camera can do. It is priced to get in the hands of many. We are listening and have changed our program many times based on feedback. We are replacing cameras with better ones at no charge. We have including a free professional app at no charge. We have full Apple support. And we have real intent to deliver more than we promised when you placed your reservation. We will do our best to treat our customers as they deserve. No one is just a (serial) number at RED. Ask 1-100.

I encourage any who are frustrated to set aside one full minute to swear at us, kick the table, or whatever else you need to do to vent. Then come back and join the RED club with a clear and positive purpose. Life is a long road.

Jim
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This is a very special post Jim.. I am sorry you and I have never met. As you are fond of saying "I've always liked you".

What you are doing with this camera, this program, is beyond description sometimes. I think we all get stuck looking at the "trees" and forget the size of the forest.

The delays are frustrating. But I can imagine they are 1000x tougher on you than on us.

Thank you for letting me be a part of this project. I love to shoot. I love good cameras, and I love that your camera is forcing me to learn so many new and wonderful things.

(I am also grateful for all the incredible "teachers" I have on here. Thanks guys).

I know the camera will come.. And in some ways, every delay excites me because I know it means a NEW camera is coming. Think of it, I have upgraded at least three generations of cameras and only paid once.

Incredible

Your friend
Jay
 
Wow, Jim. . . everything you say just makes me want that camera in my hands right now! This is a game changer. No doubt about that.

:-)

Stephen
 
Jim, you're not letting the whiners get to you, are ya? You're giving us the moon and a handful of people bitch that they wanted the moon and the stars. Whatever. This is the most excited I've been in a long time about anything.

You think this message board is rough, you should try being a comic book writer (my previous life). When Brian Bendis killed off half of The Avengers, the entire internet almost crashed just from the number of four letter riddled death threats aimed at him.

Man, I just feel so lucky to be here while something this cool is going down.
 
Jannard said:
I can only tell you what my experience is. I have the new mount, old IR/LP filter and old DSP but new firmware (Build 11). I could live with this camera forever without one more change. But I will get the conversions done this coming week because I know how much better the image is. I've seen it.

We are almost there. I know that for sure because Sony is back at it trying to block RED from being used on Sony Pictures movies. It really is quite flattering. The DPs are getting quite a kick out of it. We have to thank Sony for helping us market our program... I guess that is another story for another day.

Jim
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I wonder if it is the 3D flick they are shooting with the REDs and the SI's??
Geoff had to quit blogging about it. I could see some Sony Pic exec getting
canned and the producer forced to strap two F900s together to make
a real "Sony" flick. Ha Ha
 
I am happy as hell that RED exists - I have a camera in my price range that delivers everything I will ever need - slo-mo, prime lenses, etc. All the tools to tell a story! I could wait two more years and still be happy as hell.
 
What a loyal and understanding bunch. It's a real pleasure to see this. Red's whole open candid approach to business must surely be a lesson to all.
 
Birthday presents...

Birthday presents...

Hi Jim,

Even though I'm a little dissapointed I will not be getting mine before my birthday next year, I'm still pleased knowing you and your team are busy cranking a helluva camera from raw metal, human sweat, creative-minds-a-dozen, a dogged determination to succeed, and most of all, an overwhelming desire to be a pacesetter. All of the qualities that I also live my life by. I salute you as I return to waiting...
 
Jim,
I understand very well. One of my development projects which was also a radical change from the past, ran long a few years ago.
You are more fortunate; I was spending an investor's money who understood nothing at all about what I was doing. Fortunately, when I get it out the door, it revolutionized the (cassette) industry and everyone forgot the delays. It's fun when it's done.
Dave
 
go Jim go. The longer you delay, the better it will look when your camera slams the market here in Toronto, and I can say to (the growing number of nay-sayers I encounter on set) that I was right, as I watch them all shoot with a kick-ass, fully enabled RED Cam. I long for that day.

By the way, RED is the Mecca of cameras.

Hope that didn't offend anyone.....
 
Oh yeah, and if it makes you feel any better Jim, I am a month late in getting ONE simple HD Video Assist package set up and running smoothly. Have to forgive (and salute you) for all the tireless hard work. Shit man, a few months late on a project of such magnitude.....more than forgiveable. You need not apologize to me brother. Just keep doin' what you're doin' is all I ask. We need ya.
 
Dear Mr. Jannard,

it's stewart from HKG - CHINA who has ordered RED one S/N # 768 in 2006 right after as a witness @IBC 2006 for the Big Screen.

May I get a nerve to request you for our S/N# 101-1000 RED Key holders to compensate our ( Little Loss ) less more 20% to us for getting the LATE Delivery.

We have based on your promises to us to promise our STATEMENTs to our Projects to make it happen from 4K to anything.

If I am NOT humble please forgive me, and I don't want to find a reason to believe..........

A RED CHNAGE is gonna come.

My warmest regards to U and your RED mates.

STEWART






Jannard said:
You all have the absolute right to be sad and frustrated over the delays. It really doesn't matter that I posted "Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..." at the bottom of every post. We did post a schedule, tentative or not. We all made plans based on this hopeful schedule. I am frustrated. I am embarrassed and I am irritated that it has taken us so long to get the job done. I should have known better. This is a helluva challenge that we started from ground zero. I was nuts to think we could do it properly in this amount of time, let alone several months less.

I can only hope that all the waiting will be forgotten after all our customers get their cameras. Please take solace (I do) in the fact that the camera does things no other camera can do. It is priced to get in the hands of many. We are listening and have changed our program many times based on feedback. We are replacing cameras with better ones at no charge. We have including a free professional app at no charge. We have full Apple support. And we have real intent to deliver more than we promised when you placed your reservation. We will do our best to treat our customers as they deserve. No one is just a (serial) number at RED. Ask 1-100.

I encourage any who are frustrated to set aside one full minute to swear at us, kick the table, or whatever else you need to do to vent. Then come back and join the RED club with a clear and positive purpose. Life is a long road.

Jim
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Red has already changed my life in extremely positive ways. Unfortunately, when it comes to karma I think I least deserve it. If I could go back in time, I would have tempered my skepticism and delayed my judgements. I apologize.

So let me just say this: If this was only about a technology then we could stop right there, because this camera is really awesome and booting it up for the first time was magical. I felt inspired to do art... by an electronic machine.

But that's not enough, because the machine, is really a ticket, it allows filmmakers to overcome one of the great barriers to expressing themselves... the film. Format is now a level playing field for independent films, people shooting film simply don't have an economic advantage. Red is cutting literal thousands from their budgets. It's enabling people who couldn't before to get into the game without compromising. You are helping the young, the daring and the different (and let's face it "the crazy") much more than you know.

But that's not enough because you've also started this community. Which has been for me an education. It has created many new and great friendships. It may in fact be more valuable than the camera.

At this moment, I'm waiting for a truck to pick me up and take me to a check out for one of the largest grip and electric packages I've ever ordered. I just got a funny text message from Vladimir Eugene, he's at the airport, waiting to be picked up and taken to a camera checkout with Red #87. There are a lot of good things and good people in my life this morning and I have you guys to thank for it.

Ian Bloom
 
NO KIDDING !!!
May I guess ALL OUR RED 100-1000 ARE Serious .....................

May I ask how many RED ONES will be happen in Greater China ? In future ?

STEWART


skipdivils said:
Is it me, or did Stewart just ask for a 20% discount. He must be kidding, but I can't tell.
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Interesting thought. We have had several people ask if they can pay a large premium to cut in front of existing reservation holders. Of course we said "no".

Jim
 
ibloom said:
Red has already changed my life in extremely positive ways. Unfortunately, when it comes to karma I think I least deserve it. If I could go back in time, I would have tempered my skepticism and delayed my judgements. I apologize.

So let me just say this: If this was only about a technology then we could stop right there, because this camera is really awesome and booting it up for the first time was magical. I felt inspired to do art... by an electronic machine.

But that's not enough, because the machine, is really a ticket, it allows filmmakers to overcome one of the great barriers to expressing themselves... the film. Format is now a level playing field for independent films, people shooting film simply don't have an economic advantage. Red is cutting literal thousands from their budgets. It's enabling people who couldn't before to get into the game without compromising. You are helping the young, the daring and the different (and let's face it "the crazy") much more than you know.

But that's not enough because you've also started this community. Which has been for me an education. It has created many new and great friendships. It may in fact be more valuable than the camera.

At this moment, I'm waiting for a truck to pick me up and take me to a check out for one of the largest grip and electric packages I've ever ordered. I just got a funny text message from Vladimir Eugene, he's at the airport, waiting to be picked up and taken to a camera checkout with Red #87. There are a lot of good things and good people in my life this morning and I have you guys to thank for it.

Ian Bloom
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Yeah, what he said, except for paragraphs 1, 2, and 5
 
Jannard said:
Interesting thought. We have had several people ask if they can pay a large premium to cut in front of existing reservation holders. Of course we said "no".

Jim
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I repect your FOUNDER 's decison @RED Digital Cinema.

I aM A gREAT bELIeVER in YOU Say YES and I say NO .......
Beatles Song .......Hello Hello. You Say Goodbye and I say Hello.

My warmest regards to RED GUYS....and believers around the World.

STEWART
 
Stewart, you already have your discount in a way.

The camera you agreed to pay $17,500 for back when you reserved your camera, it doesn't exist anymore. Instead, you'll get a camera two generations improved for that same amount of money, instead of having to pay 25% more for it.
 
Thanks for the update Jim, I took you're advice months ago not planning any production until you have your RED, pretty simple no disappointment no changing plans. It looks like 2008 will be a good year new Mac Pros and a RED one. Well I got my one post in for December (unless I feel the need to give a smart a## reply!) back to lurking and learning. :calm:
 
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