Confusion on 5k 12fps...

[David Battistella]

For clarity sake.

I'm understanding that 12 frame mode in Scarlet is a burst and not a continuous 12 frames per second.

Also, if Scarlet has the same Timelapse mode as EPIC then that makes it the least expensive motion timelapse camera red offers.

I see the lower framerates as important as the higher ones when it comes to epic I think as many people (maybe more) shoot timelapse over high speed.

So any clarity on 5k timelapse and whether 12 frames is a burst for stills or an actually motion stream would be appreciated.


David

 

[Alexander Christ]

AFAIK 12fps is a motion stream, the data-rate/processing power of the Scarlet-X max out at 12fps in 5K mode.

 

[Marko Hocevar]

I would say its continuous. On the Scarlet-X page, all resolutions(including 5K) and frame rates give aprox. the same result in the MB/s throughput.
As a formula output I consistently get >55MB/s -> it must be that compression ratios don't exactly map into the formula with the same number.

i.e. at 3K 48fps 7:1 3072x1620x16 /1024/1024/8 = ~9.5 MB/s raw /7 * 48 = ~65MB/s

 

[David Battistella]

I saw the word burst at some point but it seems to have been edited. If it can do one frame then Timelapse should not be a problem.

This is a kickass 5k time lapse camera equal to Epic.

David

 

[Ketch Rossi]

SCARLET 5K is STILL mode... this would make it a 12fps Burst, meaning the need for pressing the start/record button each time an additional 12 frames are needed...

However since this is not a DSLR... It could be called Burst in STILL mode but be continuos 12fps for as long as you inserted SSD lasts...

 

[David Battistella]

Ketch

I don't get what you mean.

Are you saying its a burst and a continuous stream. To me a stills more means you hit the button and it makes a 12 frame clip not that you hit the button and record for tyre hours at 12 frames per second. That sounds dangerous.

David

 

[Brandon J.F.]

This is a kickass 5k time lapse camera equal to Epic.

I really hope the Scarlet-X has timelapse functionality like the Epic. It seems like the hardware should be able to support this, but we will see. My gut tells me that as RED tinkers with the code we could see some nice extras added to Scarlet.

 

[Paolo Tinari]

Dave,
Ketch is saying that Scarlet has a STILL continuous BURST at 5k but when you press the button it BURST a STILL of 12 fps.
Is it clear now?

 

[David Battistella]

Yes.

Scarlett 5k FF means this to me.

I hit record and a 12 frame clip is recorded.

Not

I hit record and the camera records at 12 frames per second.

So maybe there is no 5k time lapse mode at all.


David

 

[Deanan]

Scarlet 5K FF is 12fps continuous.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Ketch

I don't get what you mean.

Are you saying its a burst and a continuous stream. To me a stills more means you hit the button and it makes a 12 frame clip not that you hit the button and record for tyre hours at 12 frames per second. That sounds dangerous.

David

Sorry David,

what I mean is that you can either choose to shoot continuously as you would on EPIC till the SSD runs out, but shooting at 12fps...


OR...

Click once and and again the start stop record button, to only record one burst of 12 in one second.

 

[Luc Bouvrette]

Scarlet 5K FF is 12fps continuous.

Nice! Thanks Deanan.

I'm also interested in Scarlet X's timelapse capabilities (some of it night time, even rigged on a german equatorial astronomy mount). Three quick questions:

What's the lowest frame rate at 5k?
What's the longest possible exposure? (looking for 30" + for astronomy)
Are these determined by the hardware's limits or could be eventually modified via firmware update?

Luc

 

[Deanan]

Nice! Thanks Deanan.

I'm also interested in Scarlet X's timelapse capabilities (some of it night time, even rigged on a german equatorial astronomy mount). Three quick questions:

What's the lowest frame rate at 5k?
What's the longest possible exposure? (looking for 30" + for astronomy)
Are these determined by the hardware's limits or could be eventually modified via firmware update?

Luc

Low frame rates can be set in the UI down to multiple seconds.
Long exposures is still being worked on and limits are TBD.

 

[Enrique Blein]

Hi Deanan, is it feasible to expect a higher RedCode that in the future would enable 24 fps?