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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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Jarred Land said:
Jay.. take your medication. your scaring me.
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Jarred my friend, can't you understand why this is so very upsetting?

You guys just took away my post workflow. You're supposed to be doing things to help me, not hurt me. And if it hurts me, it will hurt others as well.

I am not chaos, but I am starting to understand how he feels... :)

Jay
 
Jay... we are momentarily taking something away that should never have been. I was reminded that Cineform was told of the agreements last December and they chose to ignore our request for restraint even with the promise of being included when we were done. We are working on Command Line tools for PC. But if you are asking us to ignore our agreements, you are truly missing a major point in our business ethic.

Jim
 
Jay.. if it makes you feel better im a Premier guy. and a Vegas guy. And an After Effects guy. I'm waiting just like you.

You get the chicken by waiting for the egg to hatch, not by smashing it with a hammer.
 
Jannard said:
Jay... others are using REDCINE with PC and no issues. We are momentarily taking something away that should never have been. I was reminded that Cineform was told of the agreements last December and they chose to ignore our request for restraint even with the promise of being included when we were done. We are working on Command Line tools for PC. But if you are asking us to ignore our agreements, you are truly missing a major point in our business ethic.

Jim
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There are PCs that are working, and there are a number that are not, and these people have been asking for help for weeks now.

Jim, I've stated my case to the point of my fingers hurting. Let's cut to the end... It's clear a command line app can be written to support AVI / cineform / and other codecs. And it's also clear it can be written in about two weeks.

you have a lot of genius-types over there, and my camera will most likely deliver in 3 weeks. How about you get it done, or something like it, so I/we can edit the footage.

If you are not going to do this, can you at least do us the favor of telling us how long these agreements are going to be in place? If I have to wait two months before I can edit the footage, I will need to make some serious decisions.. But I promise you, buying a MAC will never be one of them.

My first RED footage will be blowing up a MAC in 4k.

(wow.. that felt good to type)

:)

Jay
 
Jarred Land said:
Jay.. if it makes you feel better im a Premier guy. and a Vegas guy. And an After Effects guy. I'm waiting just like you.

You get the chicken by waiting for the egg to hatch, not by smashing it with a hammer.
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I know the rule Jarred, get more things with honey instead of vinigar. But what's the worst that can happen to me at this point? They gonna take away my editing system?

Too late. :)

But don't worry.. I'm tired.. I'm done now. I can tell when I've lost, and it's clear tonight I've lost big time.

I just don't know what I am going to do now.. And I am very worried.
Jay
 
We have stated that we are working on command line tools...

Jim
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
Jim tells us that build 14 will render Cineform's command line app all but useless, he has all but threatened Cineform NOT to fix the build when 14 comes out.

There are solutions to this problem that do not involve Cineform, but REDUser.net is no longer the place to share them

Jay
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Thanks for clarifying.

I am attempting to build a new computer and have planed to follow your lead. I purchased CS3 but it is still sealed. Am strongly considering Cineform 2k to start. My main work will be 30 minute SD for broadcast. Speed will be very important. I am very confused about what works and what won't.

I respect Jim for honoring his commitments but I understand your frustrations as well.

I will be following your success. Best of luck.

Frank
 
We understand the importance of Windows, Linux, AVI, Premiere, Avid etc. etc. You can't however always have what you want in a specific amount of time.

I'm probably the strongest Windows (workflow) advocate in the company. I'm using a Mac daily and it's not my cup of tea. So I understand your feeling Jay. We really are trying to do what's best, it's just impossible to make everyone happy.

I will see what I can do in two weeks :)
 
Rob Lohman said:
We understand the importance of Windows, Linux, AVI, Premiere, Avid etc. etc. You can't however always have what you want.

I'm probably the strongest Windows (workflow) advocate in the company. I'm using a Mac daily and it's not my cup of tea. So I understand your feeling Jay. We really are trying to do what's best, it's just impossible to make everyone happy.

I will see what I can do in two weeks :)
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Thank you Rob.. But you have three I think. :)

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
But what's the worst that can happen to me at this point? They gonna take away my editing system?
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I remember when the Varicam came out and nothing could deal with its variable frame rates properly. And the DVX came out and nothing supported it's advanced 24p pulldown except for a single application for months ( thank god because thats how i was forced into Sonic Foundry Vegas.... Then the HVX came out and nothing supported P2 except FCP for what seemed like a lifetime.

Ive been there.. felt the pain, dealt with it. looking back it wasn't as bad as i thought it was. Ive switched platforms in the past because of cameras, because Id rather deal with a (temporary) pain-in-the-ass workflow with a great camera than working with a pain-in-the-ass camera with a great workflow..

To me the quality of the image is always number one, no matter how hard it takes to get there. But thats just me.
 
Jarred Land said:
I remember when the Varicam came out and nothing could deal with its variable frame rates properly. And the DVX came out and nothing supported it's advanced 24p pulldown except for a single application for months ( thank god because thats how i was forced into Sonic Foundry Vegas.... Then the HVX came out and nothing supported P2 except FCP for what seemed like a lifetime.

Ive been there.. felt the pain, dealt with it. looking back it wasn't as bad as i thought it was. Ive switched platforms in the past because of cameras, because Id rather deal with a (temporary) pain-in-the-ass workflow than working with a pain-in-the-ass camera with a great workflow..

To me the quality of the image is always number one, no matter how hard it takes to get there. But thats just me.
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I understand your point. Its just the first time I have had a great solution in my hands, and then lost it.

Jay
 
Jay A. Kelley said:
I understand your point. Its just the first time I have had a great solution in my hands, and then lost it.

Jay
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Jay, if you are sincerely interested, and not just fixated on Cineform, which in my opinion, is far from a "great" solution, I will help you get up and running.

I understand you are frustrated. But I think your perspective is really off.

Anyway, I am offering to help you if you are interested. We are running REDCINE on XP and OSX.
 
Offhollywood said:
Jay, if you are sincerely interested, and not just fixated on Cineform, which in my opinion, is far from a "great" solution, I will help you get up and running.

I understand you are frustrated. But I think your perspective is really off.

Anyway, I am offering to help you if you are interested. We are running REDCINE on XP and OSX.
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Jay, the above has to be great news... I know you do not feel like it but nobody here is going to let you fall or fail. Red will not let you down, redusers will not let you down. We support one another... good luck.
 
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