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Chris Nolan and "Inception"

Andrew Rieger said:
Cameron may be pushing tech (in the wrong direction)
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Tens of millions of people around the world were blown away by the technology Cameron brought to fruition in "Avatar." Creating photo-realistic performance capture is the "wrong direction"? These are just tools and techniques meant to free filmmakers to pursue their artistic visions.

You may not have liked "Avatar" nor been pleased with its astounding technology, but you are in a very small minority, my friend.

As to who is the most talented young director on the block right now, I would definitely put Nolan near the top of an extremely short list, which also includes Darren Aronofsky.
 
Tom Lowe said:
Tens of millions of people around the world were blown away by the technology Cameron brought to fruition in "Avatar." Creating photo-realistic performance capture is the "wrong direction"? These are just tools and techniques meant to free filmmakers to pursue their artistic visions.

You may not have liked "Avatar" nor been pleased with its astounding technology, but you are in a very small minority, my friend.

As to who is the most talented young director on the block right now, I would definitely put Nolan near the top of an extremely short list, which also includes Darren Aronofsky.
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Nothing wrong with Cameron's tech, he did an amazing job with the visuals (wish I could say the same about the story). A film with Cameron's tech and Nolan's storytelling prowess would have produced one of the greatest films of all time. As for 3D, Cameron did it right but when I say he pushed things in the wrong direction, I am referring to all the cheap 3d knockoffs that audiences are paying out the nose for. All the conversion films look horrible and for the most part, that is what we are going to see for the next couple of years. I hope 3D dies off or at least is reserved for action films and gci stuff. All of the major releases for next year are going to be in 3D so it is not going anywhere unfortunately. Screenwriters are having a hard time getting non 3d stuff approved. Can you imagine a film like Crash in 3D? Whenever the film industry thinks they are in trouble, they change stuff to gather audiences, sometimes for better or worse.

As far as 3D freeing filmmakers to fully realize their creativity, I see 3D as a limiting factor. The gear is big and bulky, you need way more crew with stereoscopic experience. There is a lot of post work. IMO, artistic expression is no more enhanced by 3D. The story itself will always be the primary means of artistic expression. Inception is not in 3D, it does not need to be. The visuals look amazing and I can not see how 3D would benefit the film in any way.

Don't get me wrong, I liked Avatar, I saw it three times but it is not the greatest thing since sliced bread and like the matrix, it will produce a lot of cheap wanabees that will ruin 3D, look at Alice in Wonderland and Clash of the Titans, the 3D was horrible and audiences, not knowing the differences between conversions and original 3d, will soon grow tired of the high prices.

Darren Aronofsky is another extremely talented individual and I hope he experiences the mainstream success that Nolan has had. Darren's film are still pretty obscure to mainstream audiences but all of his films have been stellar so I have high hopes for him as well. He is supposed to be working on a robocop reboot but the studios are pushing him down the gci 3d route and he wants real sets and real actors in 2d so you can see that not everyone is super enthusiastic about 3d. The Fountain is one of the most beautiful films ever made and I can not see how it would have been improved with something like 3d.
 
Leo talked a little bit about Inception during an interview for shutter island. He couldn’t explain what it was about, he laughed and said most of the time he didn’t even know what he was doing and just had to trust Nolan. This is concerning. Nolan is very good. Let’s hope he hasn’t disappeared up his own bottom like Aronofsky did with the fountain.
 
scott william said:
Leo talked a little bit about Inception during an interview for shutter island. He couldn’t explain what it was about, he laughed and said most of the time he didn’t even know what he was doing and just had to trust Nolan. This is concerning. Nolan is very good. Let’s hope he hasn’t disappeared up his own bottom like Aronofsky did with the fountain.
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What are you talking about, the Fountain was amazing, simply breathtaking. It is one of the few films that made me cry. I'm am confused why people don't like it. Hate to disagree with you but the Fountain is amazing and horribly underrated.
 
scott william said:
Leo talked a little bit about Inception during an interview for shutter island. He couldn’t explain what it was about, he laughed and said most of the time he didn’t even know what he was doing and just had to trust Nolan. This is concerning. Nolan is very good. Let’s hope he hasn’t disappeared up his own bottom like Aronofsky did with the fountain.
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Lol at dissing The Fountain....
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I’ve talked with Tom about this. We will have to agree to disagree :) Either way I’m excited about Inception.
 
scott william said:
Either way I’m excited about Inception.
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Well we can definitely agree on that. :thumbsup:

I am going to be balls deep in production on my film up in the Sierras when this comes out. Hopefully I will be able to see this in IMAX before it's out of theaters. It's going to be tough going a few weeks or even months without being able to see it.
 
Andrew Rieger said:
Can you imagine a film like Crash in 3D? Whenever the film industry thinks they are in trouble, they change stuff to gather audiences, sometimes for better or worse.
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Can you imagine Crash getting held back because it's not 3D?

A film like Crash exists outside of any studio fad. It's Academy Bait. Pure and simple. It could be shot on VHS and nobody from the studio would disagree. It's an art film. They don't get green-lit based on expectations of huge returns. They get green-lit because it might win an academy award.

The people most heavily driving 3D adoption is the 4-16 year old audience. I don't think someone is going to look at a tragedy porn art flick and say "I just don't know if it'll appeal sufficiently to the 4-16 year old crowd without a 3D conversion."

I think people are getting a bit overly apocalyptic about the whole 3D trend.
 
Omar Saad said:
I love Nolan's work. He and Fincher, in my opinion, are the perfect combination of craftsman and artist as far as the big budget filmmakers go today. No element of their productions ever seem to lack, be it the writing, cinematography, acting, etc.
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I'd add PJ to that list. (minus King Kong)
 
scott william said:
Leo talked a little bit about Inception during an interview for shutter island. He couldn’t explain what it was about, he laughed and said most of the time he didn’t even know what he was doing and just had to trust Nolan. This is concerning.
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This is probably deliberate ;). Directorial approach :blush:. Good directors are master manipulators and their goal is to get the effect they're looking for. :sifone:
 
Andrew Rieger said:
Can you imagine a film like Crash in 3D?
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For a moment, that got me imagining what David Cronenberg's Crash would be like in 3D. That might actually be pretty interesting. Paul Haggis' Crash, not so much.
 
karapetkov said:
This is probably deliberate ;). Directorial approach :blush:. Good directors are master manipulators and their goal is to get the effect they're looking for. :sifone:
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Yes. some directors work like this. Mike Leigh, Ken loach, woody allan... However a film like Inception im not so sure about. Could you imagine what Momento would have been like if Guy Pearce didn't have a full copy of the script.
 
I think I must be in a minority. Although the production value of the DN was fantastic the only real aspect that held it together was the joker. All the other characters were laughably under-developed. The writing in parts was in a word bad (espcially the horrendous expositionary dialogue in amongst the heist at the beginning). They should make up their mind about Cillian Murphy's character. Nolan has yet to show me he can direct action. It pains me to say it but the action direction in Terminator Salvation was superior to the Dark Knight. I really do respect Nolan, although I don't consider him a master craftsman just yet. He obviously has skill and can hold the indie mentality on a massive budget and command a large production but as all round craftsman...

But then this is coming from someone who doesn't think Scorsese has produced anything more than adequate for 15 years - that apparently is the real sin!

On the other hand Inception looks great and it has a long list of seriously great contemporary actors.
 
Tim Hole said:
Nolan has yet to show me he can direct action.
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Well for one, the trailer looks action-tastic. The one thing I love about all his films is that they do not seem cgi-ish in any way. Based on the most recent trailer, only two things look cgi, the crumbling city and the world bending on itself. Other than that, all the sets and action look real and I suspect that the snow explosion used a miniature because that does not look cg to me. I expect this film to blow audiences away and from what I hear, he spared no expense to make every frame perfect.
 
Alan Zarnegar said:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/03/25...ing-65mm-calls-3d-an-interesting-development/

Nolan mentions 65mm photography.
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"They shot the majority of the film using anamorphic 35mm, but Nolan says they “shot key sequences on 65mm” with “5 perf not 15 perf,” and they “shot VistaVision on certain other sequences.”"

So it's not a bunch of 65mm like some have suggested, but dabblings here and there. I'd be VERY curious why some sequences were 65mm 5perf (that's the 'Lawrence of Arabia' size right?) and others on vistavision (i.e. 5dmk2 size). What was his process? I really dig the idea of mixing formats
 
Shawn Nelson said:
"They shot the majority of the film using anamorphic 35mm, but Nolan says they “shot key sequences on 65mm” with “5 perf not 15 perf,” and they “shot VistaVision on certain other sequences.”"

So it's not a bunch of 65mm like some have suggested.
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Well my friend who worked on the LA portions of the shoot said, "they always had two Panavision 65mm cameras on set, one regular and one for high-speed." So I'm guessing there was a significant amount of 65mm filming, Shawn.
 
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