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Checking interest for 4k Skyworth LED TV Group Buy

A very interesting article:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2012/06/25/2003536172

Makes you wonder just how many of the 4K Chinese panels may actually come from Taiwan?

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“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

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CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
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Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
And from where is coming the Sony 4K panel?
They dont make TVs for couple of years, they only use some Samsung, AUO, LG or China panels.
 
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Even B&H sells grey products. :)
 
Yet another interesting tid-bit of information about exactly who is making 4K panels for who:

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/09/faster-4kx2k-slower-amoled-tv/



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Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
Bill Sepaniak said:
Yet another interesting tid-bit of information about exactly who is making 4K panels for who:

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/09/faster-4kx2k-slower-amoled-tv/



________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
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yeah, most of the panels are coming from 2 manufacturers. So quality will be very similar between the companies. Software and processing will be the only real difference, as well as a different housing.
 
Chimei 4K TV

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Heard back from Konka and they are interested. They need answers to a few questions so if anyone knows the answers please let me know!

"Dear Matt,

Glad to get your letter. UHDTV is quite new in China, and there weren't so big sales volume in the past months since our announcement in August. It needs time. But yes, we are interested in international market.

But currently we have 65" and 84". I need to check 50" or 55" internally. Could you tell what more requirements you have for import to/use in USA? Especially about product certification issues like UL, ETL or FCC or what else? Could you check this with your local custom agent and confirm to me because this affects definitely the cost.

And for group buy, how will you pay? Usually, we require to pay by T/T to our bank account before shipment. So we need to know your idea about this group buy."
 
Skyworth 50E780U

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Matt Ryan said:
Skyworth is out too...Did you read my earlier posts? lol
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I know, I just wanted to show some real pictures of 4K panels at work, than the official pictures.
 
Petr Dvorak said:
I know, I just wanted to show some real pictures of 4K panels at work, than the official pictures.
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yeah no worries, just didn't want anyone to get confused. I really like the look of these Chinese tv's. I just hope we can get our hands on one.
 
So why exactly are the US models so expensive? Why isn't a US manufacturer stepping up to eat Sony's lunch and flooding the market with these TVs even if the cost double the cost of a skyworth to get all the certifications?

And shouldn't we also be looking into maybe a 10" 4K panel we can mount to the top of an EPIC? How much would that cost? 300bucks? Now that would be awesome ;)
 
Samir Patel said:
So why exactly are the US models so expensive? Why isn't a US manufacturer stepping up to eat Sony's lunch and flooding the market with these TVs even if the cost double the cost of a skyworth to get all the certifications?

And shouldn't we also be looking into maybe a 10" 4K panel we can mount to the top of an EPIC? How much would that cost? 300bucks? Now that would be awesome ;)
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Good question.... US market is price gouging....

no way a 10" panel is $300...It's harder to make it smaller than larger so it will cost a small fortune. Thats why the first models are 50" +.
 
Matt Ryan said:
Heard back from Konka and they are interested. They need answers to a few questions so if anyone knows the answers please let me know!

"Dear Matt,

Glad to get your letter. UHDTV is quite new in China, and there weren't so big sales volume in the past months since our announcement in August. It needs time. But yes, we are interested in international market.

But currently we have 65" and 84". I need to check 50" or 55" internally. Could you tell what more requirements you have for import to/use in USA? Especially about product certification issues like UL, ETL or FCC or what else? Could you check this with your local custom agent and confirm to me because this affects definitely the cost.

And for group buy, how will you pay? Usually, we require to pay by T/T to our bank account before shipment. So we need to know your idea about this group buy."
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Actually, this could very encouraging news. Essentially what there are saying is:

1. They apparently have not started the importation process of their products into the US. If they had started, they would already have a customs broker to handle the importation details/paper-work, including clearing US customs and paying the duty on the goods.

2. What that probably means: if we are serious about what amounts to a "back channel" import of their products, in all likelihood we will be the ones who have to hire a customs broker to handle the paper-work and details (and one of the BIGGEST details will be the payment of any tariffs or duties associated with the importation of the goods into the US). If they are willing to do it great ... but probably not until after they receive payment. (If we have to hire a customs broker, there are several in the World Trade Center in Long Beach, and others in San Pedro.)

3. The $64.00 question he is really asking is: What sort of certifications ... (UL, ETL or FCC or whatever) ... if any ... are required in order to import the panels into the US. (Just last week customs seized ... of all things .... 10's of thousands of RUBBER DUCKS from China, because they allegedly had too much of a plasticizer (phthalate) they thought was harmful!) My hunch is they wouldn't want a situation where their panels were seized because of the lack of some sort of electronics certification. And ... if such certifications are a prerequisite for the importation, then it probably becomes a much different story ... both in terms of time to obtain them, and obviously the cost involved. That is a question that someone will have to research.

4. As to payment, the term T/T means a wire transfer to their bank. If there are say, 40 or 50 of us, are we talking about 40 or 50 separate wire transfers that have to be made to get the money to them? That's not too efficient ... and what happens with the shipment if there are some late-pays or stragglers who never get around to doing the wire. (And wire transfers are somewhat expensive .... because of that it would make sense to do just one wire with everyone's money being sent at once ... but who is going to arrange all of that?)

5. Then we get into the logistics: There is no mention of storage and shipping. Assuming that they don't have an office or some sort of presence here in the US, (they wouldn't need a wire transfer to China if they did), if the panels do get imported, who and how is storage of the panels / shipping going to be handled? Those items cost $$ up front. There are companies in San Pedro who do just that. But, will they pay for that?

Just some random thoughts.

__________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
Bill Sepaniak said:
Yet another interesting tid-bit of information about exactly who is making 4K panels for who:

http://www.displaysearchblog.com/2012/09/faster-4kx2k-slower-amoled-tv/
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...and how much the panels cost:

If the productivity and yield rate are well-controlled, 4Kx2K will enable panel makers to increase profitability. A 50” 4Kx2K panel is priced at $800, compared to $400 for a full HD panel with slim type LED backlight, while an 84” 4K panel will be priced over $5,000.
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Count Me in, I did contact them Separetely and after the Original Email Reply making their Claim as to Not Use for TV , I have not Heard back. So Count me in on this.. I will Take 2
 
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