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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Build 17...

don't forget the compression step

don't forget the compression step

From my understanding the sensor runs at 60fps 4k all the time...so I don't see an issue other then storage write speed.

I guess people take Redcode for granted these days! My understanding was the frame rate in 4k was limited by the speed of the FPGA hardware in doing the Redcode compression. Sensor readout + compression + storage medium; the system is only as fast as the slowest link. I recall someone saying the only way 4k 60 fps would happen is if they had an uncompressed output, thus removing the compression bottleneck from the equation.
 
From my understanding the sensor runs at 60fps 4k all the time...so I don't see an issue other then storage write speed.

Not all the time. Sensor rate is set to what is selected 1~60fps for full sensor. 1~120fps for 2K cropped area. If the sensor was locked at 4K 60Hz all the time, the camera would have to do internal drop-frame conversion and find a way to deal with judder and motion issues.

The sensor can cycle the 4K area @ 60Hz, but can the internal processors / DSPs, ADCs, whatever, process all that information fast enough? The speed of the storage is only one factor in this equation.
 
....and you could be correct. We need to hear from Red on this one.

Let's hope drive speed is the only thing holding it back.
 
It's system/compression throughput and not drive speed.
 
Has anyone used video assist with the newer builds? Wondering if there will be a delay, as I expect through an AJA - and if so best solution for dialing it down.

Thanks
 
Has anyone used video assist with the newer builds? Wondering if there will be a delay, as I expect through an AJA - and if so best solution for dialing it down.

Thanks

This sound like a Build 16 question.

<----- That way----<

LOL

Build 17 questions and comments post here.

Next.

Tek
 
Hopefully its not build related at all. Most HD systems seem to have such issues - hoping this is not the case with Red.
 
Then new build in weeks and monstro uprage path in months, enough for me.

Thanks Jim & Co!
 
Dean, sorry to hear that :( can we at some point upgrade the system boards for higher framerates at 4k?

The deal for me is NOT 4k, it's the fact that I have a big crop factor when shooting higher frame rates, and example of this is a spot I am just finishing:
www.dv3productions.com/WPS_final3.mov

the entire spot is 40-48fps and I am constantly fighting the crop factor, I KNOW what lenses I want to use, but with the CROP the whole FOV is screwed up at 3k or 2k....arggg

I just want that FOV back, even if it was dvcproHD DCT compression I would be fine. It's huge for me. :(

really important. maybe I am weird but that's how I feel.
 
Hopefully its not build related at all. Most HD systems seem to have such issues - hoping this is not the case with Red.

Red is NOT an HD cam you (&*^&%^$^$.

It's a Digital Cinema Camera.

We do use HD down converted output for monitoring purpose.

Just think of it as a video tap out of a film camera.

4K IS NOT HD you *&$^%$^%&^.

What part of 4K don't you understand?

Look at this chart, here.

Tek

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"...this is a spot I am just finishing:
www.dv3productions.com/WPS_final3.mov"

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Obin, man that spot is very well done but creeeepy due to this percieved plastic surgery = true confidence/healthy new image. I know you're just fufilling your role but geez is that horrifying. People who can't accept their own bodies are fooling themselves if they think plastic surgery like this is an effective well designed solution.

Again no disprespect to you, your work is fantastic on this spot.

Thread hijack over :) Please return to your normal converastion.
 
a better monitoring system like false color on the output you want TC on the output you wan frame guide etc etc etc

And i like the id of one assignable button that can do multiple fonction like press one time 2 time or 3 time togglr etween false color zebra etc

tanks
 
Tek:

There's no need to be so sarcastic/base. This forum is a free exchange of ideas/comments, not a venue for people who wouldn't say in person what they so easily write.

Nick.
 
Tek:

There's no need to be so sarcastic/base. This forum is a free exchange of ideas/comments, not a venue for people who wouldn't say in person what they so easily write.

Nick.

Do mean thing like words like these?

&%&%*^ %&%^&% *& &%&^$^^&.

I am glad you understand what it means.

When someone create a one time fake name to post an ignorant slam on RED I take offenses to it.

Freedom of expressions does not includes lies, guesses, and slanders.

RED is a DIGITAL CINEMA CAMERA with build in play back.

Tek
 
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