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Blacks cleaner in standard mode than LL mode?

Jason beaumont

Jason beaumont

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I've noticed cleaner Blacks in standard mode than LL mode? I know that LL mode has a lower noise floor, but in a lot of my pictures the 1600 LL mode has mode fine white grain in the blacks than the standard mode. Does anyone else experience this?
 
Jason beaumont said:
I've noticed cleaner Blacks in standard mode than LL mode? I know that LL mode has a lower noise floor, but in a lot of my pictures the 1600 LL mode has mode fine white grain in the blacks than the standard mode. Does anyone else experience this?
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The dynamic range in LL mode is lower than it is in standard mode so depending on your lighting situation this could be impacting the image. That said its not something I have experienced yet. As James mentioned I would recalibrate and see if it continues.
 
ive calibrated a few times, im going to test it today and post some stills.
 
Jason beaumont said:
This was shot in standard mode at 400 iso. Very noisy.
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This absolutely isn't "very noisy" by any means. If anything perhaps shoot at 5K and/or lower your REDCODE RAW Compression Ratio to 5:1, but even this clip at 7:1 looks absolutely in bounds on a calibrated display.

If I push the image up a bit that deeper blue and blacks are certainly on the cooler side of things via the 3200K White Balance, but this clip looks fine even push up a stop.
 
On my monitor , especially in premier the blacks look noisy, the background is literally dancing on my screen lol. at 400 iso, I just remember experiencing better blacks on my scarlet w, maybe im just imagining it. no way to compare.
 
If you're working in Premiere Pro CC and have something like 1/4 qaulity during playback you'll be getting rather different results. You should run an export test at 4K or 2K. This really isn't noisy at all.
 

400 iso 5:1 , 800 LL, and 800
 
What display are you watching on? My smallhd 2403 is very bright and if I watch my gemini footage with the backlight at 100 I have the same problem. It's not in the legal range but when you crank a high bright display up you will start to see artifacts like the dancing ants.
Watch on a smartphone to see what I mean. Hope this helps.
 
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