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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

AVID SYMPHONY at 1000$ OR ADOBE PREMIERE CS6 at 1700$

It really depends what sort of editing you are doing. Avid is amazing for longform and series work, not so flexible for short form. Premiere is pretty awesome for short form, but has some missing functionality around long form. What are you mostly cutting.
 
You can buy Premiere CS6 for $800 on its own. $1800 is for the Production Premium package that includes Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash Pro, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, Speedgrade, Prelude, Encore, Adobe Media Encoder, Bridge.

Premiere is file agnostic, you can work with any resolution, frame rate and codec all on the same timeline. I've just used it for little projects in the past and it's been really easy to use. I'm starting to try and round-trip to/from Resolve and relinking media seems to be a bit of a pain (seems like you manually have to click every clip you want it to link to). Adobe Media Encoder is an awesome tool and comes bundled with Premiere.

As far as price, to compare apples to apples the $800 stand-alone is still a deal. Most people need Photoshop and After Effects as well (I do) so the Production Package was what I went with. Once you make your initial purchase the upgrade costs are minimal (the 'cloud' upgrade licence covers 2 machines for $30/month).
 
Also, the $1K Symphony was a crossgrade promotion from FCP7 that is now over.

Michael
 
Instead of buying it why don't you do the paid subscription? $49 per month (yearly contract required) and you get ALL of CS6 programs, including Premier, AE and PS.

https://creative.adobe.com/#plans
 
No brainer if you've never used any of the options.
Get the CS package itll do you well :)
We use Avid for post but have over a dozen CS across the Macs and PCs here.
I personally dont use Premiere anymore but when the time comes, its there ready for me ;)
 
MichaelP said:
Also, the $1K Symphony was a crossgrade promotion from FCP7 that is now over.

Michael
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I thought so too, but not only can you still buy it @ B&H for $999, but even on Avid's website. They're not advertising it, but looks like they've haven't cut it off. As far as I'm concerned, Symphony @ $5K is laughable and certainly unjustifiable when you consider the CS6 Production Premium is $1899... Hell, and much cheaper if you're upgrading. In my case, I'm upping from CS3 Prod. Suite and it's costing me $900. Add in Smoke 2013 @ $3500 (+600 for yearly license) and you've got 2 amazing programs for the price of what... 10+ year old Symphony! That being said, I can't see Avid selling a lot of Symphony's at 5K so my gut tells me it'll stay at 1K, which is good for all us as who the hell ever thought we'd be able to have 4 NLE's on one machine!
 
Other than the expensive and bulky Mac dongle you require, FCP-X as another option at 299$.
 
PatrickW said:
Other than the expensive and bulky Mac dongle you require, FCP-X as another option at 299$.
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I love the dongle :) We opted for that with our crossgrade so we can move the app around.
 
Thanks guys. I really appreciate. I was finally decided for CS6 but a bunch of people told me that there was reliability issues. Did you experience some on MAC? Some even recommend to me FCP X????
 
Guillaume Tremblay said:
Thanks guys. I really appreciate. I was finally decided for CS6 but a bunch of people told me that there was reliability issues. Did you experience some on MAC? Some even recommend to me FCP X????
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Well FCPX would be fine if its a budget issue. I dont think that will work for what you want. I use it and love it but honestly Avid or CS6 (RED reason) would be best.
 
Guillaume Tremblay said:
Thanks guys. I really appreciate. I was finally decided for CS6 but a bunch of people told me that there was reliability issues. Did you experience some on MAC? Some even recommend to me FCP X????
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Again, depends on what you are doing.

Premiere...as many on these boards have declared....works BEST with RED footage.

If you plan to cut projects yourself, it sounds like a good option.


Avid 6 is awesome, is rock solid, and has massive talent pool. If you plan to HIRE editors to cut your work, then this would be the way to go.

However the RED workflow is not as seamless....you can AMA R3d's into the project, but the most common way to get footage in is to transcode a ONE LIGHT out of Red Cine X and make DNX HD proxies...much more labored than dropping them into the timeline like Premiere.
 
Guillaume Tremblay said:
Thanks guys. I really appreciate. I was finally decided for CS6 but a bunch of people told me that there was reliability issues. Did you experience some on MAC? Some even recommend to me FCP X????
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Trying PPro out on a project w/a bunch of 45sec. web vids. I'm working w/AVC Intra100 footage and for the most part PPro is working ok... Occasional crashes, which I'm narrowing down to why. Response is good, other than a play lag, but I'm attributing it to working w/the AVC codec. Editing-wise, it's fine, one can get used to it. I will say this, I got back on FCP7 to make some changes to another project and it felt soooooo good. We really got dicked by Apple ay :banghead: Avid is an old faithful, and if PPro doesn't grow on me, I'll likely head back... Unless of course that jack Symphony back up to 5K :hand: Smoke 2012 is my finishing tool, but I'm giving 2013 a trial. Performance is not great and I'm on a strong MP. Let's see how things progress w/it but an all in one sys would be great. FCP-X, no thanks!
 
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