April shipping update

[jordan levy]

jordan, as I mentioned in another thread, remember these SCARLEt-W orders Jarred is referencing were originally RAVEN orders. So, since we have been shipping SCARLET-W a full month before RAVEN, it is a moot point. If they had stayed RAVEN or switched to SCARLET-W, those accessories would have been allocated regardless.

Just would need to add a couple of days to Jarred's estimates to allow for transit time from manufacturing in Irvine to REL....

oh, ok, i think i get it. though i think people got scarlet packages already that were way after some of our raven orders, like hours later. if not, then i am mistaken, but that is what i gathered from other allocations. so are you saying now that that regardless if you are raven or scarlet-w package orders it will go by time stamp, or are you saying all scarlet will be allocated first? sorry, still a little confusing. i think most of us were thinking that since accessories for packages were made available for scarlet-w's, then upon the raven landing on march 17th, there were at least some left to allocate to raven packages on that date since some of us that had very very early orders never switched, especially to the first 5 people or something.

 

[Brent Carter]

Good question. Since we had less SCARLET-W orders than RAVEN AND began shipping SCARLET-W first (by a month), we are fulfilling later SCARLET-W timestamps right now versus RAVEN. So, all relative in a sense, but either way, no one is getting cuts in line here....

 

[Alexander Thomson]

thanks for the update guys, but what about original Raven orders that stuck with Raven, with orders in months even before the scarlet-w and sticking to it, are we not going to be able to get our packages settled first? especially if we ordered in the first 15 minutes of announcement?

I know your frustration man, i'm right behind you in the queue... I think the answer is... to switch to Scarlet-W so I bump up in the Raven line

LOL just kidding, but yeah, the way I interpret what Brent's saying, is: If RED makes 100 units of the accessories that go in both Raven and Scarlet-W packages, isn't it weird to leave those 100 pieces lying on the shelf for a MONTH just so they could blast out a batch Raven package allocations on March 17th, when:

1) RED is making more and more of those accessories every day
2) Scarlet-W began shipping a month before Raven, and,
3) Raven Packages had historically been scheduled to be allocated a month after brain-only orders, anyway?

Raven brains had a ship date of Feb, pkgs in March. Brains slipped a little because of the 4.5K free sensor upgrade (thx again RED btw) but it was always going to be "brains first, packages a lil bit later" --- I can see why you're bummed. I am literally in the exact same situation as you right now. But i'm gonna try really hard to not be butthurt about not getting allocated the exact second the clock ticked 12:01am on March 17th because, let's face it, RED is really pulling off the impossible with this camera. It'll be ready when it's ready, and i'm okay with that. Soooooon.

 

[Carlo De Agostini]

Thanks guys, I didn't get when the scarlet-dragon to scarlet-w upgraders will be allocated but I'm sure we're getting closer.
The only regret I have is selling my scarlet dragon a way too early... lesson learned.

 

[Curtis Edlin]

So that would mean that all the people who switched to Scarlet-W from a Raven preorder will be allocated before the first Raven Package will be allocated, correct?

 

[Alexander Thomson]

Good question. Since we had less SCARLET-W orders than RAVEN AND began shipping SCARLET-W first (by a month), we are fulfilling later SCARLET-W timestamps right now versus RAVEN. So, all relative in a sense, but either way, no one is getting cuts in line here....

This is exactly what I was thinking was happening. There's a buttload of Scarlet-W orders but a shitload of Raven orders.

Random extremely underestimated hypothetical example:

100 Scarlet-W packages could get you from September to November through the queue.

100 Raven packages could get you from Sept 24 @ 9:39pm PST to [CHECKS TIMESTAMP ON MY ORDER] 9:50pm PST... hopefully

 

[jordan levy]

Good question. Since we had less SCARLET-W orders than RAVEN AND began shipping SCARLET-W first (by a month), we are fulfilling later SCARLET-W timestamps right now versus RAVEN. So, all relative in a sense, but either way, no one is getting cuts in line here....

wow, so earlier raven time stamps are getting bumped for later scarlet-w time stamps? wow.
i know they started shipping a month earlier but raven preorders started many months earlier. really doesnt make sense to me because we have been waiting longer and committed sooner. what would make sense to me is that if it went by time stamp no matter which brain you were getting starting march 17th.

 

[Danny Kim]

Thanks for the update. I'm not sure where my Scarlet-W Monochrome brain order falls in line, since there was no Raven Monochrome equivalent. The Red sales reps told me the wait for the Monochrome wouldn't be as long as the regular color Scarlet-W. They projected a February ship date originally. Hmm. :confused1:

 

[Alexander Thomson]

wow, so earlier raven time stamps are getting bumped for later scarlet-w time stamps? wow.
i know they started shipping a month earlier but raven preorders started many moths earlier. really doesnt make sense to me because we have been waiting longer and committed sooner. what would make sense to me is that if it went by time stamp no matter which brain you were getting starting march 17th.

Packages were always supposed to get allocated later/behind the first few brains. It seems like everything is on schedule.

 

[jordan levy]

Packages were always supposed to get allocated later/behind the first few brains. It seems like everything is on schedule.

that was only when brains were going to ship in feb, when they all fell into march it only mattered by what was available accessory wise, then scarlet pkgs were allocated. so now no ravens on street will have a way to even work…and yes, behind a first few brains, but now we are told more and more and maybe all scarlet pkgs will go out before any ravens, if im still hearing this right.

 

[Curtis Edlin]

Sounds like you will be allocated on April 8th, or at least that will be when Raven packages take flight.

that was only when brains were going to ship in feb, when they all fell into march it only mattered by what was available accessory wise, then scarlet pkgs were allocated. so now no ravens on street will have a way to even work…and yes, behind a first few brains, but now we are told more and more and maybe all scarlet pkgs will go out before any ravens, if im still hearing this right.

 

[Ugo Del]

Thanks guys, I didn't get when the scarlet-dragon to scarlet-w upgraders will be allocated but I'm sure we're getting closer.

I guess there is switchers, then Ravens, then all the dealers, then you have priority

 

[jordan levy]

Sounds like you will be allocated on April 8th, or at least that will be when Raven packages take flight.

well, i hope that is AT LEAST what he is saying, but it almost sounds like brent is saying much later time stamped scarlets will be allocated fist.
im sorry but this is the very first thing that doesnt make sense to me.
i think from march 17th on, it shouldnt matter what brain you have on order, it should go by time stamp.

 

[Curtis Edlin]

I believe what Brent means is that every person who preordered before Scarlet-W was announced (which would be original Raven preorders) will be allocated before Raven packages since Scarlet-W started shipping a month before which gives them priority.

well, i hope that is AT LEAST what he is saying, but it almost sounds like brent is saying much later time stamped scarlets will be allocated fist.
im sorry but this is the very first thing that doesnt make sense to me.

 

[jordan levy]

I believe what Brent means is that every person who preordered before Scarlet-W was announced (which would be original Raven preorders) will be allocated before Raven packages since Scarlet-W started shipping a month before which gives them priority.

meaning i could switch to scarlet on monday and get one of the first packages? even though im deciding to switch 4 months later?
order first, receive first in my opinion, now that both brains are available.

 

[Curtis Edlin]

From what I gathered from the information provided, yes.

You do have to remember, those people who are receiving Scarlet-W's now also preordered months ago.

meaning i could switch to scarlet on monday and get one of the first packages? even though im deciding to switch 4 months later?
order first, receive first in my opinion, now that both brains are available.

 

[Brent Carter]

Sorry, jordan, don't know how else to explain it other than my last post. But I will try. Even though I think Alexander seems to be explaining it better than me at times!

Since we have been shipping SCARLET-W for longer and there are less orders, we are fulfilling later time stamps. Hypothetical: We have 5x brains of SCARLET-W come off the line and 5x RAVEN. They each get allocated from 10x available accessories on same day, but timestamp of SCARLET-W is later since that is where we are at in queue. So, we are not "prioritizing" SCARLET-W here, it is all relative due to where we are at in that queue.

I guess there is switchers, then Ravens, then all the dealers, then you have priority

False.

I am going to call it a night on that one, folks...

 

[Curtis Edlin]

Now that makes sense.

Thanks for for the clarification

 

[jordan levy]

Sorry, jordan, don't know how else to explain it other than my last post. But I will try. Even though I think Alexander seems to be explaining it better than me at times!

Since we have been shipping SCARLET-W for longer and there are less orders, we are fulfilling later time stamps. Hypothetical: We have 5x brains of SCARLET-W come off the line and 5x RAVEN. They each get allocated from 10x available accessories on same day, but timestamp of SCARLET-W is later since that is where we are at in queue. So, we are not "prioritizing" SCARLET-W here, it is all relative due to where we are at in that queue.



False.

I am going to call it a night on that one, folks...

oh, ok, that makes more sense, you are just later in the que with them time stamp wise, but now you will be following time stamps equally and raven pacakges will be going out at an equal rate. phew.
thanks for clearing that up, sounds better, good night!

 

[jordan levy]

Now that makes sense.

Thanks for for the clarification

yeah, now ill be able to sleep, haha.