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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

APPLE store is DOWN!

JanneJansson said:
My pet theory is that Intel is not playing nice.
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Yes Intel is not playing nice. Also Nvidia is not playing nice, Logitech is not playing nice, Wacom is not playing nice, Adobe is not playing nice, antennas are not playing nice, USB sticks are not playing nice. Only Apple is playing nice. It's a cool theory.


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the only good thing about those new mac pros is the 12-cores.

other than that, i'd take reduced price 8-cores please.

we needed:
- more (or at least better) PCI-e lanes
- usb3
- fw3200 or fw1600
- esata
- built-in LTO5 drive in the 2nd DVD slot (now THAT would be something)
 
KETCH ROSSI said:
NO Mac Pros so far ;(

BUt I guess I will get the 27" iMac i7 for now, but really looking forward to a Bad A%$#@ Mac Pro, to create a powerhouse not only for the Epic but also for my now extremely demanding Stills work flow, with my new 60MP Still MF camera system, I guess I prepping to see what it will be like to process with the Epic 645 he he.
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Should have bought that Leica S2 Ketch :).
 
Craig W. Bickerstaff said:
You have a $2499 model and a $3499 model just like before I don't know what your on abut with this Charging more for a mac pro.
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the pricing on the 12 core, starting price is 5 grand. probably going to be closer to 7 grand once you have it maxed out. I paid 6 for my 8 core 2.93 ghz. compare that with the 12, it will be a marginal processing speed increase, still the sam amount of pci slots (just a little more room for a beefier video card now) no extra ports, nothing. It's more money, for a minor upgrade. an extra 4 cores may sound awesome, but at this level of architecture, your not gonna start seeing big performance gains until you render farm.
 
Tom.Wong said:
still the sam amount of pci slots (just a little more room for a beefier video card now)
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Same amount of space. Slot 1 is double-width, just as it has always been. There were no changes made to the hardware here at all. Only an updated EFI firmware to support the new CPUs, which drop right into the same sockets. And some new GPU and SSD options to choose from.

This is nothing more than a minor specification bump. I don't understand the pricing, it's way out of line, IMO. And given that it's a simple spec bump, the only reason I can think of for Apple to take nearly 4 months longer than necessary to announce it, is so they could milk the existing Nehalem supplies for all they were worth.
 
No nVidia card. I bet my breakfast on it, that is a slap in the face of Adobe as nVidia cards are strongly recommended for CS5...
 
Rick Darge said:
Dear Red, please never become Apple

-Thanks
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Sorry but Apple still rules here (RED1 free apps are first coming on MAC OS X and Arri Alexa has Apple ProRes 422+4444...).
 
That might change now, Sanjin... without the right toys, you can't play...
 
The kingdom of amateurs.

The kingdom of amateurs.

Universe I can hear you clearly... Buy a PC.

That kind of cheap marketing reminds me the Microsoft tactics ten years ago, bored.
One second of AAAH! and years of hell. Really I can´t understand... Oh, wait, yes, the iphone of course.

Welcome to the kingdom of amateurs.
 
Maybe I am too close to see the bigger picture but I just cannot understand WTF Apple is thinking. They have proven that people will spend in excess of $5,000 (I am including enough RAM, etc for serious use not just citing the base model price) for a professional tool (many of us on this forum have done it many times), all they have to do is actually make one.

For traditional desktop use, the current iMac, particularly with the bigger screen, is as much computer as any non-professional needs and competes reasonably well with PC offerings as a complete package. So, IMHO the only real market for the towers is pros, many of whom need lots of bus access (at least six 16 lane slots) plus eSATA, USB3, etc and the ability to use high end GPUs. How is it possible they don't know this?

Even if the creative community is a small market compared to other Apple gadget sales it has always been a halo for the brand. Is it really that difficult to make a business case for selling workstations at roughly $5,000 a pop in popular configurations? Perhaps 3 billion in gross rev on 600,000 towers is a waste of their time?

Where's that Hackintosh article...

Cheers - #19
 
Brook Willard said:
http://digg.com/d31YC9m

Some thoughts.
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Well said Brook

Well I have some time on my hands guys
let me know if this helps

I will get in my car and go stand out front Apple inc.
With a sign that says-

Please give me a Mac Pro with " "
-
-
you guys please fill in the blank for me
with what you think should be there

I will also put on the bottom of my sign
that I am standing there for all the professionals
that are busy working and cannot be there with me
I will hang a dry erase board with a number on it around my neck
that number being the amount of people who have asked to be added
to those wanting the Mac Pro to be Saved
This way I can stand alone if need be

All I need is for someone to make a place for people to click
and show the number of people who want/need this to happen

Maybe Im crazy, but it just feels crazy to sit here and do nothing and wish for the Mac Pro to be dealt with.....:badputer:

Who's Comin with me!!!
(Jerry Maguire voice)
 
Brook Willard said:
http://digg.com/d31YC9m

Some thoughts.
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Nice blog entry, Brook!

Have to nitpick the user-replaceable hard drive thing for the Macbook Pro you mention though. Macbook Pro HDD's were considered to not be user-replaceable until they shipped the unibody model. And before the unibody model, they would take an experienced geek like you or I a good 10 to 20 minutes or more to replace and do a nice job about it, getting all the little tabs back into place right, taking care not to crimp anything and be sure everything was aligned so the latch would still work. With the unibody macbook Pros, the drives are considered to be user-replaceable. The bottom comes off the system and the drive can be quickly removed. The process is almost as fast as on a regular Macbook.

Other than that, I agree with your sentiments completely. Apple does seem to be treating this as a mid-cycle specification bump and not a new introduction. That is some hopeful thinking to cling to. I'm still going to hope for a better Mac Pro with the next CPU and chipset updates that will require a new logic board and will offer more than 40 PCIe lanes on the south bridge chipset interface. Hopefully Apple will make use of the extra lanes that will come with the new chipset. What worries me is that they will take their sweet time once again to introduce new systems, letting mainstream PC vendors beat them to the punch. I have given up on the possibility that they might actually offer a rack-mountable system. They will never offer Blu-Ray, but thankfully just about any Blu-Ray drive can be installed and Adobe CS5 lets me create Blu-Rays just fine.

I'll skip buying a new Mac Pro in 2010 I think. Then again, if I need one, I guess I need one...
 
Michael Moreno said:
you guys please fill in the blank for me
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Blu Ray burner (Not the most important thing, but there should be one, despite the fact that Apple doesn´t want blu-rays to sell because they will make more money selling films through itunes... lame)
 
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