Announcing WEAPON DRAGON 6k Magnesium

[Mike Nagel]

Do I understand this correctly that Dragon-X is evaluated at 15.5K ?

 

[Phil Holland]

Is this the "standard" weapon version?

Yep. This is the standard Weapon. Carbon Fiber Weapon gets you a bit more processing power and ability.

The only question is availability of regular Weapons in the store

Upgrades and new Carbon models will be happening first. That is if nothing has changed.

 

[Sergio Perez]

This is the CF version upgrade, right? How about the regular? As a non CF Dragon owner coming from MX, 18K is just too much for me, I can't do it... I really, really wish there's a "Regular" weapon that would be the natural upgrade path for this "penniless sitar player"...

 

[Quentin Brown]

Looking forward to hearing further details. LUT's are interesting - especially combined with the pro res output. Hopefully we can burn in the LUT to the pro res?
What about the current RMD metadata based RAW controls? Are they still present? Can we choose where to put them in the processing pipeline, before or after the LUT? (Presuming we can combine the two)
Any ACES support in live looks planned?
Can we send different looks and LUTs to independently to individual outputs?
Will the engine driving the LUTs allow for live updating so it can be manipulated in the same was as HDLinks, Fuji IS mini, FSI 's new CFE3 enabled monitors like the BM 250 etc. with Livegrade?

 

[Christoffer Glans]

So Dragon-X body only is $29.000 right now

Weapon Magnesium body only is $34.500

$15.500 credit for Dragon-X means $20.000 on top when you trade in.

Selling Dragon and buying a new Weapon seems a lot less expensive then...

The only question is availability of regular Weapons in the store

Yeah, I would be able to sell my recent upgraded Dragon for very close to the new price for it (like $20 000) and then it will only be around $14 500 for Weapon, not $19 000 as this trade in would be.
Or am I missing something? Seems odd

 

[Nick Morrison]

No.

Gotcha.

 

[Jonas Klittmark]

So Dragon-X body only is $29.000 right now

It is $24,000 no?

But either way you're right, $19k to upgrade from Epic Dragon is a lot. More than selling the Epic Dragon and buying the Weapon, unless our Epic Dragons just dropped a lot in value.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

Whats the max fps in 6k hd and 5k hd?
Is the dynamic range approved?
S/N?
Physical control panel?
Batteri times?

Ok I bet the specs is up soon.

 

[Freya]

What is the max resolution in pro res? Can it do 4K Pro-Res? UHD? 6K?

Freya

 

[Kemalettin Sert]

Whoa how come my dragon lost %50 worth ?

 

[Demetri Zuev]

It is $24,000 no?

But either way you're right, $19k to upgrade from Epic Dragon is a lot. More than selling the Epic Dragon and buying the Weapon, unless our Epic Dragons just dropped a lot in value.

My bad, I looked at the M version, it is $24.000 indeed

 

[Drazen Stader]

everything is great and nice…except 2 things

1. can we hear something about the fps on the weapon…i am sure this interests a lot of folks on this forum
2. the upgrade path for current user seems quite pricey don't you agree? when selling your own stuff pays more than the upgrade itself something is missing

just my initial thoughts

 

[Hans von Sonntag]

These are made of Magnesium and the wheel nuts arte made of Titanium.:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/images/redfox/attach/jpg.gif

Proved combo. Last on my car since 44 years now.



Hans

 

[Jonas Klittmark]

Whoa how come my dragon lost %50 worth ?

I wonder if these numbers have typos in them. A Scarlet Dragon that has been purchased for $19k ($9.5k+$9.5k) is now valued at $2.5k?

And there is mix-up of "credit is" and "price is".

 

[Mendes Nabil]

Can't wait for the "primordial" specs: Color science & low light capabilities..
Seems like Epic and Scarlet line will be seriously fall in term of prices..

 

[Adam Johnson]

I purchased a brand new Dragon X in December and it is already obsolete and worth much less. That is technology for yah. Guess I'll go F myself now lol

Whoa how come my dragon lost %50 worth ?

 

[sam karr]

I wonder if these numbers have typos in them. A Scarlet Dragon that has been purchased for $19k ($9.5k+$9.5k) is now valued at $2.5k?

And there is mix-up of "credit is" and "price is".

I agree, there is something unclear. Red would not push people to upgrade scarlets to dragon to finally tell them it's worth 2500$.

 

[Björn Benckert]

Yeah, I would be able to sell my recent upgraded Dragon for very close to the new price for it (like $20 000) and then it will only be around $14 500 for Weapon, not $19 000 as this trade in would be.
Or am I missing something? Seems odd

Are you sure you can sell it for 20k usd?
That was maybe possible yesterday, tomorrow I think your calculations need to be a bit different.

 

[Nick Morrison]

I wonder how much better a Weapon Magnesium is than an Epic Dragon..as far as fps, compression, etc?!

 

[Mike 'Fireman' Ross]

I'll wait to hear more, about interfaces (How do we get XLRs without buying a $4k module, again???) and Brick power options etc, but I think I'll pass for now, sorry.

Bottom line is, it's a ~$30k upgrade for an Epic Dragon customer like me. I say $30k because my 512GB standard Redmags are now junk - obsolete. That's the deal-breaker. If I could use my existing media, it's a $20k upgrade and if there were enough upsides I'd spring for it. As it is, I just don't see the compelling case. I'll sleep on it and see if I feel different in the morning

If I was buying from scratch, things would be different; that's an attractive price point for entry into the top end of the Red ecosystem for new owners. I do agree with the other comments that selling my Dragon and just ordering a Weapon looks like a much better value proposition. It'll be very interesting to see what happens to Dragon values... of course we can't *sell* our Dragons until we get shipping notifications on Weapon.

Mike