Airplane-legal carry-on case for Epic - very satisfied with this unit.

[Les Dittert]

I just checked china airlines carry on rules. They say nothing about a camera bag, they just say "small camera" allowed for the extra item.
Also, for bulky or valuable items, they allow you to buy a seat for the item. Example is a cello.

Their text for allowed carry on bags looks like its written by crafty lawyers who read forums.

 

[Brian Iannone]

Remember there is NO legal regulation on CAMERA BAG, so they can't do anything about, they can scream all they want, and as far as you keep your ground, they'll bring you to the head Hostess, and or even the Captain, at the end that Camera Bag, and yes even my hefty 50LB camera Bag will be boarded as part of the carry on.


Alitalia, Airfrance, Emirates, American Airlines, Delta, KLM, British Airways, US Airways, SouthWest, United Airlines, Alaska Airlines...

Right off the top of my head in this past two years alone, and I'm sure I'm missing several to the list...

I'm not certain I completely understand. So, you're saying that airlines allow for one camera bag with no weight restriction in addition to the one carry-on bag which, from the regulations stated on most airline's websites, have a weight restriction of 15-20 pounds?

 

[Ketch Rossi]

I'm not certain I completely understand. So, you're saying that airlines allow for one camera bag with no weight restriction in addition to the one carry-on bag which, from the regulations stated on most airline's websites, have a weight restriction of 15-20 pounds?

Correct Brian, the Carry-On needs to comply to regulations based on that particular Airline, and the additional "CAMERA BAG" does not suffer any such regulation form any Airline in the World.

 

[Steve G]

Correct Brian, the Carry-On needs to comply to regulations based on that particular Airline, and the additional "CAMERA BAG" does not suffer any such regulation form any Airline in the World.

Not true. Most airlines say "camera" and not camera bag. Check any airlines websites. Also, there is a maximum weight of the total of the 2 items.

Air France.... Voyageur / Economy
Your baggage allowance in the Voyageur cabin
1 standard baggage item that respects the following maximum dimensions:
55*cm (l)*x*35*cm*(w)*x*25*cm*(h) – including pockets, wheels, and handles
Please note: (1 suit bag is considered a standard bag)
1 accessory (handbag, notebook computer, camera, etc.)
Maximum total weight (standard baggage + accessory): 12 kg/26.5 lb

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/guidevoyageur/pratique/preparer_bagage_cabine_airfrance.htm

British airways. Number of hand baggage items
*Passenger *Type of baggage allowed *Weight
*Adults and children(aged 2 and over) One*bag
and
One laptop-sized bag, handbag or briefcase 23kg (51lbs).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/bagcabin/public/en_gb

Sure, we can all push the regulations, but the airlines can, if they want, insist on their weight restrictions.

 

[Brian Iannone]

Correct Brian, the Carry-On needs to comply to regulations based on that particular Airline, and the additional "CAMERA BAG" does not suffer any such regulation form any Airline in the World.

All right, I'm a bit confused. That would incredible if an additional "Camera Bag" with no weight restriction was allowed, but the regulations that Steve quoted below (which are similar on all airlines) is what I've experienced throughout of my travels. The second "Accessory Bag," according to airline regulation, has a length + width + depth measurement limit and needs to be a certain size, which usually, is tiny compared to the size of backpack that it sounds like you're using.

I would really like to understand how you're able to bring a second bag onboard your flights with so much additional weight and not have issues. I've payed hundreds of dollars over the past few years from overweight charges on airlines and it'd be great to get around that.

So, let's say one brings a carry-on bag that does comply with airline regulation. But, let's say that person also brings a backpack (the "Camera Bag") that weighs 30 pounds and is the size of the backpack you have in your photo. Now, that person passes through security and is about to board the plane when they're stopped due to the second "Camera Bag." How does one explain to the airline that they are indeed allowed to bring this 30 pound backpack classified as a "Camera Bag?"

Also, do you typically fly first class? If so, that could be why they are allowing you to bring such a large and heavy second bag into the cabin.

Not true. Most airlines say "camera" and not camera bag. Check any airlines websites. Also, there is a maximum weight of the total of the 2 items.

Air France.... Voyageur / Economy
Your baggage allowance in the Voyageur cabin
1 standard baggage item that respects the following maximum dimensions:
55*cm (l)*x*35*cm*(w)*x*25*cm*(h) – including pockets, wheels, and handles
Please note: (1 suit bag is considered a standard bag)
1 accessory (handbag, notebook computer, camera, etc.)
Maximum total weight (standard baggage + accessory): 12 kg/26.5 lb

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/guidevoyageur/pratique/preparer_bagage_cabine_airfrance.htm

British airways. Number of hand baggage items
*Passenger *Type of baggage allowed *Weight
*Adults and children(aged 2 and over) One*bag
and
One laptop-sized bag, handbag or briefcase 23kg (51lbs).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/bagcabin/public/en_gb

Sure, we can all push the regulations, but the airlines can, if they want, insist on their weight restrictions.

That's precisely correct.

 

[brett ogden]

Also, do you typically fly first class? If so, that could be why they are allowing you to bring such a large and heavy second bag into the cabin.

I think he fly's Business class and about them letting the bag on bored i think it's his Smilie!!! :biggrinjester:

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Not true. Most airlines say "camera" and not camera bag. Check any airlines websites. Also, there is a maximum weight of the total of the 2 items.

Air France.... Voyageur / Economy
Your baggage allowance in the Voyageur cabin
1 standard baggage item that respects the following maximum dimensions:
55*cm (l)*x*35*cm*(w)*x*25*cm*(h) – including pockets, wheels, and handles
Please note: (1 suit bag is considered a standard bag)
1 accessory (handbag, notebook computer, camera, etc.)
Maximum total weight (standard baggage + accessory): 12 kg/26.5 lb

http://www.airfrance.us/US/en/common/guidevoyageur/pratique/preparer_bagage_cabine_airfrance.htm

British airways. Number of hand baggage items
*Passenger *Type of baggage allowed *Weight
*Adults and children(aged 2 and over) One*bag
and
One laptop-sized bag, handbag or briefcase 23kg (51lbs).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/bagcabin/public/en_gb

Sure, we can all push the regulations, but the airlines can, if they want, insist on their weight restrictions.

NO matter, I have been flying for the last two decades with excess of 40/50lb CAMERA Bag, never was I at the end forbidden to take it on board.

All right, I'm a bit confused. That would incredible if an additional "Camera Bag" with no weight restriction was allowed, but the regulations that Steve quoted below (which are similar on all airlines) is what I've experienced throughout of my travels. The second "Accessory Bag," according to airline regulation, has a length + width + depth measurement limit and needs to be a certain size, which usually, is tiny compared to the size of backpack that it sounds like you're using.

I would really like to understand how you're able to bring a second bag onboard your flights with so much additional weight and not have issues. I've payed hundreds of dollars over the past few years from overweight charges on airlines and it'd be great to get around that.

So, let's say one brings a carry-on bag that does comply with airline regulation. But, let's say that person also brings a backpack (the "Camera Bag") that weighs 30 pounds and is the size of the backpack you have in your photo. Now, that person passes through security and is about to board the plane when they're stopped due to the second "Camera Bag." How does one explain to the airline that they are indeed allowed to bring this 30 pound backpack classified as a "Camera Bag?"

Also, do you typically fly first class? If so, that could be why they are allowing you to bring such a large and heavy second bag into the cabin.




That's precisely correct.

As I said, two decades+ of traveling my way, never did my Camera Bag was not allowed on board, even if in very few occasions I had to argue about it, and talk to the Head Host, or Flight Attendant in charge, and even to the Captain.

Its only been the last few years that I travel Business Class, and never had any issues before on Couch either, in BC, you are allowed two Bags as a carry on btw, and I always carry 3...

I think he fly's Business class and about them letting the bag on bored i think it's his Smilie!!! :biggrinjester:

Yes as Brett pointed pout here, its important that you always have a nice SMILE and a BAG full of GREAT attitude, no matter what.

 

[Ketch Rossi]

ONE MORE THING...

This are my personal experience, and have been constantly so for many many years, and I have traveled the world around and with so many different airlines its impossible for me to remember them all, however, always know that your experience might be different, based on whom you find that day while you board your flight, and based on also the capacity of the plain, but mostly always based on your attitude, and not just your attitude at the beginning of an issue, but at the end of any issue.

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Knowing Ketch I imagine he could probably talk his way into riding in the cockpit. I wouldn't necessarily expect his results to be typical.

 

[Bob Gundu]

Ketch, can i use your name as a reference when boarding

 

[Brian Iannone]

Remember there is NO legal regulation on CAMERA BAG...

...the additional "CAMERA BAG" does not suffer any such regulation form any Airline in the World.

NO matter, I have been flying for the last two decades with excess of 40/50lb CAMERA Bag, never was I at the end forbidden to take it on board.

Okay, I see. So now my question is, how does one explain to the airline that there is no legal regulation on weight or size of the second "Camera Bag" when the hostess/captain/security brings over a flyer showing me the airline's baggage regulation while I'm trying to explain to them that I am indeed allowed to bring this bag? Is there an international law on baggage allowance that I can quote or something of that sort?

I'm trying to understand if bringing a second "Camera Bag" is something I (or anyone else here) can do. However, I'm not sure if you're able to do this because there truly is no legal regulation or because you're Ketch Rossi. =D (Which would be totally understandable, by the way!)

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Okay, I see. So now my question is, how does one explain to the airline that there is no legal regulation on weight or size of the second "Camera Bag" when the hostess/captain/security brings over a flyer showing me the airline's baggage regulation while I'm trying to explain to them that I am indeed allowed to bring this bag? Is there an international law on baggage allowance that I can quote or something of that sort?

I'm trying to understand if bringing a second "Camera Bag" is something I (or anyone else here) can do. However, I'm not sure if you're able to do this because there truly is no legal regulation or because you're Ketch Rossi. =D (Which would be totally understandable, by the way!)

I have said and said again and again what I wanted to say with my experience, each will make his own, I also said many times that because is not written much goes upon the individual as well as the person traveling it self and their attitude.


They will not bring you a flyer saying anything about size and or weight of a camera bag simply because there isn't one!!

Do your own travel and experience to see what you can do, I did mine and continue to do so, and I know what I can do, and I have said it more then in off, I don't want to drag this any more then I already did, and continue to repeat my self or be put to doubt in my words, this is what has been for me and many of those that have traveled with me can attest to tit, no once has any one stopped me from carrying my gear on board, but ONLY ONCE, were I actually had 3 BAGS, and one of them ended up under, as the plain was literally FULL, so I had one carry one, One camera Bag, and one third camera bag, I was only allowed one, and I could not even pay for the other to come on board or take a seat as the plain had none available.

This was one of those very few times in 20+ years were they made me talk to the head Host and then to the Captain, as they weighted my camera bag at well over 50lb, which had two Red Epic cameras and a SHIT load of gear, + the MBP 17", plain absolutely packed, flying Couch, as no other seats were available, yet that camera bag came on board with me, the third with lenses had to be checked in with the 3D rig HUGE Peli case and two others.

That is it, I'll say on more!!


Safe travels, and experiment, pack your gear well, so that if you are not allowed to bring it on board it will be safe to go under.

 

[Mauro Andreini]

Airlines & Camera Cases Issues

Airlines & Camera Cases Issues

Ok guys,

Here is what I worked out for my travelling and hopefully it might be of interest to others.

Major Airlines such as B.A. will accept items of 560 x 450 x 250 mm. as cabin luggage.

Smaller European companies will only accept 555 x 400 x 200 mm.

HPRC produces three cases that are accepted by different companies and here are the models:


HPRC Cases


2550 W 545 350 230 Accepted by BOTH

2600 550 420 215 BA & major airlines

2600 W 550 420 260 BA (almost by 1 cm)

Cabin luggage allowance​

Rayanair easy jet etc. 555 x 400 x 200 mm

BA & major.. 560 x 450 x 250 mm

Red suggests the following

SCARLET 240 240 240Accepted by BOTH

PELICASE 570 350 230 Too deep

BRANDED 620 500 360 Way too large


Personally I have a 2550 W for any eventuality

http://www.plaber.com/2550w.htm

and a 2600 W that only exceeds the dept by 10 mm and should be no problem on major airlines.

http://www.plaber.com/2600w.htm


The HPRC 2800W is awesome and I use it when I travel to the Far East for scuba filming (as checked in luggage).
http://www.plaber.com/2800w.htm

 

[Les Dittert]

China airlines says 'small camera' as a second item. Not even 'camera' , or the more broad 'camera bag'.
Moving forwards, I am waiting to see the credit card swipe for entrance to the WC.
It's a new gig for airlines.

In the 50's you could bring a gun as carry-on. I'm not joking ! Things change.

 

[Steve G]

I have said and said again and again what I wanted to say with my experience, each will make his own, I also said many times that because is not written much goes upon the individual as well as the person traveling it self.

Actually, if you look at most airline websites, it is written. Sure, we all bend the regulations about carry on, but if they want/need to follow their regulations to the letter, as happened to you, there is little you can do.

 

[Bill Sepaniak]

The other thing to keep in mind is that some airlines actually have special rules/policies for media luggage. They may waive, to a certain extent, the extra luggage, extra weight, and/or over-size fees. (Obviously, it would be better not to check anything in ... but sometimes that just doesn't work.) Not all airlines have these policies, but it doesn't hurt to check in advance and to print-out the actual policy from the airline's web-site and have it ready when you check-in. Typically, the airlines that do give you a break on media luggage will require some sort of ID that shows you are associated with a TV or film production company. (For those of us who have our own independent production companies, it is relatively easy to make-up your own official looking ID.)

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

 

[Steve G]

The other thing to keep in mind is that some airlines actually have special rules/policies for media luggage. They may waive, to a certain extent, the extra luggage, extra weight, and/or over-size fees. (Obviously, it would be better not to check anything in ... but sometimes that just doesn't work.) Not all airlines have these policies, but it doesn't hurt to check in advance and to print-out the actual policy from the airline's web-site and have it ready when you check-in. Typically, the airlines that do give you a break on media luggage will require some sort of ID that shows you are associated with a TV or film production company. (For those of us who have our own independent production companies, it is relatively easy to make-up your own official looking ID.)

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

These media policies are for checked in bags. Normally means a discount on excess baggage. Not so common any more.

 

[Peter Strietmann]

F-stop rules. I've been traveling with the Satori on planes for about 8 months now. It fits in almost all overhead compartments except for the little puddle jumpers. While it is clearly overweight when loaded up if I explain nicely it is camera gear they have always let me on. http://fstopgear.com/en/product/mountain/satori-exp

 

[Ketch Rossi]

Its okay, you guys follow the rules, to BRAKE them will continue to be my pleasure...

 

[brett ogden]

Its okay, you guys follow the rules, to BRAKE them will continue to be my pleasure...

I will BRAKE the rule's with You any Day...