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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

A taste...

Insane speculation is a formidable contribution to the imaginative processes of R&D. If this madness is an accident, then it's a valuable one. If it's a result of intention then RED are geniuses. Keep up the madness...and the rationality...and the wide-cast net of contribution. Imagination. Speculation. Even when verging on the ridiculous or extreme, it is potent food for what IS possible. I'm sure this forum has pushed the boundaries of RED's imagination and design of current products. The insane stuff stretches the boundaries of the sane stuff. Every company would be smart to have such a website. Sorry Dave.
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International Film School said:
Insane speculation is a formidable contribution to the imaginative processes of R&D. If this madness is an accident, then it's a valuable one.
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Heh, I wonder how many times this conversation has gone on:

Jim: "Did you see this crazy feature request? These people need to get in touch with reality."

Graeme: "Actually, that one's totally possible."

Jim: "...really?"

Graeme: "It'd take a little work, but the technology is...uh...already...I'm going to have to cancel my vacation, aren't I?"
 
If you chose to make your plenoptically shot video 3d i would think you would want to keep it all in focus. That way the human eyes watching get to choose what is in focus and what is out of focus.

I know plenoptic cameras are here now...but aren't there still problems with resolution? I thought that since the sensor was taking in all the light in a 4d space they had less resolution left per area of focus. Maybe 8k would take care of that...i dont know.
 
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Weston said:
I know plenoptic cameras are here now...but aren't there still problems with resolution?
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Multiple "viewpoints" are stored at the same time - which means multiple pixels are needed to store what will become one pixel in the resulting image.

As a wild guess, a plenoptic camera with 8K sensor would output at around 0,5K for final images, based on the video i linked to earlier (the "plenoptic cluster" seems to be about 20X20 pixels).

To get 8K final output... the sensor would need to have an unspeakable amount of resolution to start with.

I suppose it's a tradeoff between accuracy and resolution. The bigger the pixel cluster, the better quality - but visually similar results could probably be achievable with lower pixel counts and some smart interpolation algorithms.
 
Waiting hurts soo good.
 
USlatin said:
Wildest expectations for me:

A. Still $3,000
B. A full stop of DNR more than R1
C. A full stop more sensitive than the 2/3" mode of R1
D. The same zoom range on the built in lens but 2.4f

E. Any three of these!

THAT'S W-I-L-D!
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You know what, on a serious note... any TWO of these would be an accurate measure of "wildest expectations" IMHO.

And I'd take A and C. :innocent:
 
Leave politics out of RED User

Leave politics out of RED User

Haskell said:
Sounds like a RedUser if you ask me. ;) look forward to the announcement Jim.
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Dude, quit wearing your politics on your shirtsleeve and respect this forum for what it was intended.
 
Halsu said:
I'd take A & D. And i'd be happy to pay 1-2K more for f1.2 ;-)
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Yea... me too :sorcerer:
(it would take some serious magic)

but just to clarify once more for others reading this, do not expect anything faster than 2.4f and most likely will be something like 2.6f. Based on what I've gathered...

Abu Reno said:
NO! Everything but the lens!! And maybe the matte box.
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Yes! My sentiments exactly! lol... noooo... wait,let me just take this, and this... ok, here ya go, have fun... CRASH CRASH CRASH!

hahaha!
 
My hope is that Jim has recognized that there is a lot of S16 glass out there which, coupled with something like the JVC HZ-CA13U PL MOUNT FILM LENS ADAPTER, which is made for 1/3" sensors, or the Anginieux HD/Prime adapter made for 2/3" sensors, will allow unbelievable and still pretty cheap results.
 
texasmfp said:
My hope is that Jim has recognized that there is a lot of S16 glass out there which, coupled with something like the JVC HZ-CA13U PL MOUNT FILM LENS ADAPTER, which is made for 1/3" sensors, or the Anginieux HD/Prime adapter made for 2/3" sensors, will allow unbelievable and still pretty cheap results.
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not sure if I follow what you are saying
 
I am saying that I hope that the Nov 13th announcement will be an option for interchangeable lenses, perhaps combined with an all optical adapter such as the two that I mentioned.
 
Yup... that is a small possibility... but more than interchangeable 2/3 glass we would want 35mm glass and that would require a ground glass adapter...

I say Red should buy up Letus or SGpro :)

I say SGpro cause they already have a red forum! :D
 
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