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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

*** A little SURPRISE ships with the EVF PRO (Bomb) ***

Hehe,

I couple of days ago I came back from Bangladesh through Frankfurt and we were in a hurry due to short flight connection.
With the camera in my bag they wanted as usual to check it upon explosives and I said kindly : "No problem, just that we are in a hurry and that they are waiting for us already!"

The security officer : "Sir this is not Mcdonalds, this is about security"

I shut my mouth because I didn't want to miss my flight.
 
Anson Fogel said:
2 words Bruce - gaff tape. 3 words - black gaff tape. shit. that was 5 words. my bad.
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X-Rays see through gaff tape. And taping it just makes it look like you're trying to hide something.

That said, I really don't think "bomb" on the side in small letters is going to make one bit of difference. TSA is not going to give anyone crap over the word "bomb" on the side. They're going to study it regardless, maybe even ask you to plug it in and demonstrate it. I've had that the couple times I've traveled with my RED One + EVF and I think they were just more curious about what it all was.

Call me strange, but one of the first things I'm going to do with my EVF when I get it is fly somewhere with it. Just because it says "bomb" on the side. ...Well, not really. I just have a few projects lined up for Epic when it comes in and I'm hoping I'll have my bomb EVF to go with it.

FWIW, I thought "RED Sight", as on the older mockups, was a better name. So there. :P
 
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Well I know If I was a terrorist and I made an explosive device I was trying to smuggle on an airplane the first thing I'd write on it in big bold letters would be "Bomb". That way there would be no confusion.:thumbsup:
 
Guys,
even so I understand why some of you might be concerned, this has been discussed so many times,
and my post here was simply to showcase a nice little gesture RED is making in including a Totally COOL
little case for the EVF at no additional cost, no matter if it is a small case and it might cost little to nothing,
it is still something EXTRA FOR NOTHING, but most important it is a case that internally HUGS the EVF
tightly and secures it for transport, so for this I wanted to share it with you guys, and thank RED fro ti,
because I Appreciated the Gesture Very Much!!
 
Its a shame, but the 'bomb' name probably will cause an issue at some point, even though its utterly illogical for it to do so.

To put it in perspective, a couple of years ago it was widely reported when a guy was nearly arrested for wanting to board a flight wearing a transformers t-shirt. The robot in the picture was holding a gun...
 
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today at a rentailcompany i had and used the Bomb evf!! in the Netherlands

today at a rentailcompany i had and used the Bomb evf!! in the Netherlands

John Marchant said:
Its a shame, but the 'bomb' name probably will cause an issue at some point, even though its utterly illogical for it to do so.

To put it in perspective, a couple of years ago it was widely reported when a guy was nearly arrested for wanting to board a flight wearing a transformers t-shirt. The robot in the picture was holding a gun...
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It is better than the Arri EFV, it says Bomb EVF and i can't wait to get mine!! Don't wurry about the word, enjoy your smile when you used it!!
 
Can't we all just leave the bomb thing be and be excited that they give you a mini pelican case when you buy the thing? That's the point of this thread anyway. They ain't taking bomb off the side, so let's just move on with our lives!

(My fault for bringing it up. I was just curious because the box didn't say bomb.)
 
Pawel Achtel said:
good one, ha, ha, ha

Once a security official at the airport wanted to confiscate my nail clippers. Yes, nail clippers! He regarded it as a weapon and he seemed serious about it.

I requested to speak to a supervisor. I told him that I wanted to report a serious security concern that he should not ignore if he wants to keep his job. I told him that I was terribly concerned that imbeciles are employed as security officers. I mean, if someone is so incompetent that he considers nail clippers a security risk, just imagine what he may NOT regard as a security risk! The security officer is the biggest security risk because, clearly, he makes poor judgement what is and what isn't a security threat.

They returned my nail clippers and appologised.

Having said that, I am not confident this would work in US....I guess not.
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In the US they would take you to a room to meet the supervisor, who would then give you a full body cavity check.
 
Zakaree is exactly right.

This whole bomb thing is so old and annoying already.

You have two options if you are that concerned:

1. Don't buy the bomb. Get the old one. Or the redrock. Or nothing at all.

2.Buy it and have a professional machinist sand it down. A professional will know how to treat it with care and not damage the eyepiece. Have them
Etch your name and initials in instead. Simple.
 
Bomb EVF

Bomb EVF

Bruce Allen said:
So, how easy is it to remove the word BOMB?

Seriously, this is extremely important. So... is the lettering raised? Indented? Can it be sanded off? Will this void your warranty?
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Well to put this concern into perspective. Don't panic. I have flown with a Bomb EVF as both carry on and checked luggage into and out of LAX at least 8 times this summer and have had no problems with TSA at all. My advice is to not hide the EVF, not gaffer tape or sand off the "Bomb" letters... just present it as normal carry on luggage and if asked what it is tell them that it is an an electronic viewfinder for a camera. i.e tell the truth.

Security teams are trained to look for the unusual, not the obvious. They may swab it to test for explosives but they do that to electronics anyway.
 
Nice packed EVF and I like it.

Also it is not recommended to hide anything at a luggage check point on airport.

If they ask you something you should just nicely describe and explain it to them everything even in details.

Last time I had a standard photo camera equipment and woman who screened my bags was watching it on monitor a bit longer.

Then she asked me about something that was one big Manfrotto clamp probably that she didn't see it before.

Also everybody should understand better their kind of job.
 
Justin Nguyen said:
lol who would label a bomb "bomb" anyhow?
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Nobody.

BUT if your job is to check for bombs and you don't check the thing with "bomb" written on it, you're gonna look like a real idiot if it blows up, aren't you?

Do YOU want to explain in the resulting court case why you didn't check the thing with "bomb" written on it?

Sorry to derail this - but this was the first info I heard on the final size of the "bomb" logo. It is supposedly smaller than before AND can be sanded off if I want to (gaffer tape was never an option). This makes me happy. Now I can consider buying it. Yaay.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
50 % of the "reduser" hate it
and 0% need bomb so...;)

Whats wrong with PRO EVF?!

But the case is a nice idea!
 
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Stuart English said:
Well to put this concern into perspective. Don't panic. I have flown with a Bomb EVF as both carry on and checked luggage into and out of LAX at least 8 times this summer and have had no problems with TSA at all. My advice is to not hide the EVF, not gaffer tape or sand off the "Bomb" letters... just present it as normal carry on luggage and if asked what it is tell them that it is an an electronic viewfinder for a camera. i.e tell the truth.

Security teams are trained to look for the unusual, not the obvious. They may swab it to test for explosives but they do that to electronics anyway.
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Stuart, I'm just wondering if you happen to be of middle eastern descent?

Because it makes a difference.

You guys have made the thing, and named it. It is what it is. It will cause me trouble, but whatever.

All this said, I have noted that dealing with gear is getting better in places that have the newer scanners. They can really look into the gear and satisfy themselves that it is not bomb-like more readily. I traveled to Seattle from DC and back recently with no questions whatsoever, despite carrying several bags packed to the gills with audio gear and a 7D. (I was working as sound recorder on that shoot.) Every single airport I went through on that trip had the newer scanners.
 
I have to assume that you could notify the airport security before and ask them what the best course of action should be to travel with it.

These are extreme measures but if you are worried about being held up or don't need any hassles I have to assume this would work.

Now this is very unnecessary considering a name change would fix it, but considering the amount of these that will be flying I'm sure it won't be a problem after a while. Like I said if you are worried there are measures you can take to ensure you won't have problems on the day you fly.

Seems crazy but I still like the name and think it should stay
 
Stephen Matthews said:
I have to assume that you could notify the airport security before and ask them what the best course of action should be to travel with it.
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What this means to "us" is that you have all the right procedures and should have everything set to sail through.

What this means to security personnel is, "WARNING: some joker is coming through here with weird electronics. Take extra care in inspection."

Everyone keeps talking about how many of these there will be... bushwah!

Let's say that Epic sells ten times as many units as RED One, then lets say that Scarlet sells ten times as many as Epic. Let's further assume that every RED One remains in service one way or another. That would be roughly 888000 RED cameras out there. (And it would also be a startled and hapy RED team I imagine!)

Assume they all have a RED Pro EVF with the word BOMB embossed.

A lot of these cameras will never fly.

So, lets assume half these cameras flies one round trip per year, with each flight having a connection. That's less than 2 million emplanements per year.

Worldwide in 2009 there were nearly 2 billion passengers using the top 50 airports.

Its not a lot of flying done by RED gear. Even given these highly optimistic sales figures we are looking at 1 in 1000 passengers having a RED EVF.

Anyway... I'm done with that.

RED has made a Kick Ass EVF, and they are giving us this great case with every unit.

I'm very excited and eager to get mine.
 
Great product! And very cool that they include a case! And as Noah pointed out, calling it RED PRO EVF is logical and consistent with the rest of the pro line. Calling it "Bomb" EVF is fine while under development for us Red junkies (because it looked like an old atomic bomb), but shipping a final product named "Bomb" seems a poor choice from a project naming perspective. Why invite all the issues when they were brought up on the forum long ago?

Perhaps its just another chapter in Red's history that we'll all laugh about in a few years.

When all is said and done, I'd rather have one without "bomb" on it. :)

M
 
Alexander Ibrahim said:
Stuart, I'm just wondering if you happen to be of middle eastern descent?

Because it makes a difference.

All this said, I have noted that dealing with gear is getting better in places that have the newer scanners. They can really look into the gear and satisfy themselves that it is not bomb-like more readily. I traveled to Seattle from DC and back recently with no questions whatsoever, despite carrying several bags packed to the gills with audio gear and a 7D. (I was working as sound recorder on that shoot.) Every single airport I went through on that trip had the newer scanners.
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I am sorta (India is close :).
I've flown with bags full of cameras, circuit boards, wires, and all sorts of highly suspicious things. I've had the full search plenty of times and for random things like hard drives, two laptops, not shaving, etc.

However, I've never been stopped for a bomb evfs.

If I did, it would be treated no differently than the harddrive that was suspicuous with a rescan and a swab.
 
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