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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

4K monitor out for Red Dragon

why should it be difficult to get a 4K out of a Dragon or Epic-X. If you can make it down to 2K why not to 4K? Must be easier?? HDMI out ore better New kind of SDI out! And the best thing would be if you can choose between 4K or 2K (full HD). The Sony's F55 can do it.
 
Robert Berger said:
why should it be difficult to get a 4K out of a Dragon or Epic-X. If you can make it down to 2K why not to 4K? Must be easier?? HDMI out ore better New kind of SDI out! And the best thing would be if you can choose between 4K or 2K (full HD). The Sony's F55 can do it.
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Exactly. It would be cool to have a user select option of 2k or 4K output. I'd love to record that 4k stream to a recorder for Direct to Edit workflow for relinking later in Resolve. That would be amazing. Also, if the Paralinx could transmit that 4K signal wirelessly, that would be incredible.
 
Matt Ryan said:
Exactly. It would be cool to have a user select option of 2k or 4K output. I'd love to record that 4k stream to a recorder for Direct to Edit workflow for relinking later in Resolve. That would be amazing. Also, if the Paralinx could transmit that 4K signal wirelessly, that would be incredible.
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Matt,

Such restriction (2K maximum output through HD-SDI and HDMI) was intentionally built into the cameras, starting with the Red-One, to assure you use the Red media (cards, RedRaid, and solid state bricks media). Actually, there was a firmware inserted into those medium so that if you tried to use a different, non-Red approved media, the max. resolution was limited to 2K.

So, all this was part of the system since the get-go.
 
Luis Otero said:
Matt,

Such restriction (2K maximum output through HD-SDI and HDMI) was intentionally built into the cameras, starting with the Red-One, to assure you use the Red media (cards, RedRaid, and solid state bricks media). Actually, there was a firmware inserted into those medium so that if you tried to use a different, non-Red approved media, the max. resolution was limited to 2K.

So, all this was part of the system since the get-go.
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Back then no one else was allowing 4K straight out of camera either. But now they are.

Are you saying RED won't change and offer a 4K output? Because I think they will eventually... If we show enough interest I honestly believe they will consider it. I'd rather have a decked out camera with more options than limits, wouldn't you agree? Even if you don't need a 4K out, it's a great option to have and it's forward thinking. Forward thinking is what brought RED into the game. But that's just my opinion.
 
Matt,

I a not in a position to establish what Red will or will not do in the future. I just was adding a fact into the conversation that could help to explain the situation.

I am with you: the more options, the better...! But, there were/are business decisions made for a reason, we like it or not. However, I would advocate to have as many options as possible.

Hope this helps to clarify the rationale of my posting.
 
I think Luis is saying that by enabling 4K output to other devices that it may impact the sales of RED SSDs but I don't think it will that much since the only way to record RAW r3d files is still only on RED ssd.
 
Maz Mawlawi said:
I think Luis is saying that by enabling 4K output to other devices that it may impact the sales of RED SSDs but I don't think it will that much since the only way to record RAW r3d files is still only on RED ssd.
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And you always want the R3D files!!
 
Robert Berger said:
And you always want the R3D files!!
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Agreed! That's the most important factor and advantage of the RED workflow. I would feel soooooo limited in post without the r3D flexibility...I have become so spoiled with the advantage of RAW r3d...;)
 
+1 4K on set monitoring will help art department, make up etc to a lot more accurate and help give us more confidence. We now deliver Full HD and 4K final deliverables for all our commercials etc
 
Luis Otero said:
Matt,

I a not in a position to establish what Red will or will not do in the future. I just was adding a fact into the conversation that could help to explain the situation.

I am with you: the more options, the better...! But, there were/are business decisions made for a reason, we like it or not. However, I would advocate to have as many options as possible.

Hope this helps to clarify the rationale of my posting.
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Hey Luis,

I completely understand, I'm just hoping RED will change their stance and offer this option. Back in the day there weren't any 4K external recorders either. I feel like the Epic/Scarlet will become much more versatile if this was an option. One more reason to not hate RED for the haters... Dragon is a huge leap in that direction, but this could greatly improve those opinions from outsiders. Total takeover is what RED needs hahaha
 
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