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1st problems in the field...

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Hi Jim,

I totally agree with you. My question, what about humidity?
Also ,what about the hard drives and heat?
Will they work in 100 degrees in the shade?

Any suggestions besides providing shade for the camera?
How did the ice bottles work?
 
Greg Voevodsky said:
Hi Jim,

I totally agree with you. My question, what about humidity?
Also ,what about the hard drives and heat?
Will they work in 100 degrees in the shade?

Any suggestions besides providing shade for the camera?
How did the ice bottles work?
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I think a gel pack was used today. They are recording to Compact Flash so I don't know for sure how hard drives would do, but I suspect they would do fine if kept in the shade.

Jim
 
Jannard said:
I think a gel pack was used today. They are recording to Compact Flash so I don't know for sure how hard drives would do, but I suspect they would do fine if kept in the shade.

Jim
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I bet the gel packs worked well. They are flexible and can conform to curves well while applying alot of "cold" to a large surface area ( thus dis.... heat...)-- the caveat would be condensation. Gibby had a great suggestion in an earlier thread for that though. Gel packs are in my kit for me :weight_lift: , now they can serve double duty in extreme situations for the camera as well.
 
How about the humidity?

I've heard that the camera is well sealed from dust and thus moisture, so what about the poor hard drives?

Should we bring some cold gels to the tropics with us?
Wrap them around the top so the bottom vents (I assume) with heat sinks can breathe?

Or am I just paranoid about reading about heat and hard drive failure. Is it ok in the short term. Bad in the long term? Or do we really need to cool it with shade and cold packs on hot sunny 105+ beaches in the tropics?

I just want to be safe? I've had humidity problems in the past... never heat problems (I cover the camera in shade)...
 
Has anyone mentioned loading film in extreme heat? That's really annoying. It's difficult to avoid getting your finger oils all over the emulsion.

One of the many things that can be avoided with the RED camera.
 
Patrick said:
Has anyone mentioned loading film in extreme heat? That's really annoying. It's difficult to avoid getting your finger oils all over the emulsion.

One of the many things that can be avoided with the RED camera.
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The last time I used film there were three times during the final day when the camera jammed. We were too far from base to get another camera, so we had to try to unjam it, and I had the joy of watching film spool all over the floor, three times. It wasn't just the cost of the stock, but the hours we lost. During one hour, we had no problems, and shot 12 minutes of glorious footage - which the lab ruined. I know film isn't always this annoying, but that was the end for me.

If I have to blow on the Red camera to keep it cool I'll be happy.
 
ChristopherKenworthy said:
... If I have to blow on the Red camera to keep it cool I'll be happy.
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Come to think of it, if heat becomes the only Red issue we have to grapple with, then I'm pretty sure there will be very innovative ways of getting around it and having our happy-red-shoots as against you know what.
 
Jim, thanks on your honesty and all information. We have now in Serbia close to 120 degrees (46 Celzius) but lot of cool ladies as well.
 
Avoiding Confusion

Avoiding Confusion

km9000 said:
Speak American, dadgummit. Whats that in Fahrenheit? :innocent:
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This is why we need Metric and Imperial measurements on lenses, feet vs. Metres as well as F-stops and T-stops so we can all avoid scratching our heads to work things out. :biggrin:
 
By the river of Babylon: 46 Celsius are 114.8 Fahrenheid. As multilingual europeans we need to have some cool tools on our comps, they allow as to understand quiet the whole world :innocent: Give them a try km9000, it helps
 
km9000 said:
Speak American, dadgummit. Whats that in Fahrenheit? :innocent:

I know its 'sposed to be 105 degrees in Cordoba tomorrow. That ain't Honduras hot (where it feels as if it were actually PUSHING you into the pavement), but still...
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46 degree Celsius = 114.8 degree Fahrenheit

according to the Temperature Conversion/OnlineConversion.com
http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm
 
Has anyone ever purchased a camera or piece of electronic gear that didn't list an operating range of temperature in the specs? I don't believe I've ever seen one that listed operating range above 104 to 107 F.
 
Here in Spain, Formentera is still very very hot and
also the girls are so friendly HOT and NICE to the local photographers.

Have a look below:

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When you shoot in hot areas with a lot of direct sunlight you should cover your camera the same way as you do with film camera's. White covers or a umbrella, also good for your self.
 
Heat ?

Heat ?

Thanks for sharing.

Check this out.
Sounds revolutionary.

link

link
 
omen said:
Thanks for sharing.

Check this out.
Sounds revolutionary.

link

link
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That is interesting. Isn't that just the reverse of what the new cooling device that RED is going to have, or related technologies? If so, maybe in the future RED can incorporate that into the camera and convert the heat from the sensor to electricity to boost battery times or something. There obviously will be energy loss eventually, but, if one can harness the heat coming off of the thing and plug it back into the system...now that would be sweet. Easier said than done I suppose.
 
Good Links

Good Links

omen said:
Thanks for sharing.

Check this out.
Sounds revolutionary.

link

link
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Good stuff Omen. Great Links. This is a good read for anyone interested in cooling technologies. Not only the ability to cool electrical components down but also the ability to turn heat into a power supply on a scale thats usable. If Apple is looking at it, there maybe something in it.

Still maybe far off in the future but then thats what they said about RED too..........:biggrin:
 
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