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18-50mm Zoom?

Yes, I second that.

Jannard said:
The 18-85 is on a delay. All reservations can (if you choose) slide to the 18-50mm CF.

The real price for the 18-50mm is $6500.

Sorry for any confusion... lots to do in a short period with not many people.

Jim
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No big deal, Jim. However, it would be very useful to know how much can be the delay on the 18-85 as well to have some enlightenment on this request:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1614

As it's possible to check there's who is requesting the same. We'd be grateful for the individual offer on the RED PRIMES as far as possible.

It seems there are others with the same concern.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=28448&postcount=14

Thanks!
 
Even though the primes are only being offered as a set, Jim did say (when asked this morning) that he may consider selling the 85mm separately to go along with the 18-50 zoom. I think that would be a nice option for folks opting for the zoom this summer.
 
but the wider 15mm would be gold as well for filmmaking purposes..
 
I hope it will... A 15mm tool plus the 300mm would be the perfect set to add to the compact zoom.
 
this was the coolest news for me today

i'm so happy

i was going to nikon all the way but now I have to reconsider
 
IMO the 18-50 close focus zoom will be the single most popular lens that RED has announced thus far. I checked it out very closely when I was shooting the pics of it for my mag article a few weeks ago. Nice materials, workmanship, small, light, and focuses as close as 8". For me, it will probably be the most often used cine lens in my kit...and a great price too ($6,500).
 
MDP16 said:
From what I was told at the Red Booth if you have a camera reservation don't worry about the glass. Every lens that is in production will be available to you at the time you purchase your camera and accessories.
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Just wondering if this is true - as it hasn't been answered yet, as far as I can tell?
 
Yeah this is something that could do with a bit of clearing up at some point Heligowasit. I wouldn't mind ordering the 18-50mm but if I have to wait a long time after my camera ships in August I'd rather find something else and maybe pick up this zoom next year. If this lens will ship in the same way that the accessories will, as some comments have eluded too then I'd probably buy it with the camera in August.

It's a catch22, because I don't want to commit to buying the lens if I cannot get it for a while, but I don't want to be even further down the line at the same time! :)

It's so hectic at the moment that I can understand things like this not being cleared up.
 
thinkbug said:
Even though the primes are only being offered as a set, Jim did say (when asked this morning) that he may consider selling the 85mm separately to go along with the 18-50 zoom. I think that would be a nice option for folks opting for the zoom this summer.
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When I was reading through the posts, I thought, "hey, maybe they could sell the 85mm to add extra punch when you need it!" As long as I could have my setup so I could change fairly easily (under 5 mins) then I would go that route (18-55 + 85 prime.)

Matthew
 
Jim, can you sell the 18-50mm zoom + the prime 85mm in a package? That would be really nice. How long is it until the other zoom (18-85mm) will be ready? Would like to know so I can make up my mind... witch one...
/Christian
 
PaulClements said:
I wouldn't mind ordering the 18-50mm but if I have to wait a long time after my camera ships in August I'd rather find something else and maybe pick up this zoom next year. If this lens will ship in the same way that the accessories will, as some comments have eluded too then I'd probably buy it with the camera in August.
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While this (like everything else) is subject to change, the 18-50mm will be available this summer, as far as what's been said verbally, printed in the NAB handouts and on the RED.com site. How early or late in the summer is open to speculation, but it seems clear it should be ready for anyone getting their camera in August, if not those folks with June/July shipments. I certainly plan on getting mine in August. The fact that they have them on display in the booth is a good sign.
 
The question of waiting for the 18-85mm zoom may be answered at some point in time by red. Cast way back when the red zoom was being talked about. The talk then was of making a compact zoom first because that was most needed. There was also talk of producing a second zoom with longer range.

I honestly doubt that the red zoom we all ordered is ever going to be an 18-85mm? It just does not make sense (says me the beginner:sad: ) when we now have a cracking 18mm- 50mm with Macro facility. I do wish they had made it a 16mm-50mm though and bumped the price up to say $8,500


The likliehood (as someone suggested) is the next zoom after the 18-50 could be a 70-200 or possibly 250 , whatever. If red team are looking closely at the weight issue for specific applications then we could find the next zoom will also be close to the weight of the 18-50 i,e, 3lbs or so. What zoom specs could be made that would keep the weight at that level? Does any of this make sense.:umm:

Mike the beginner
 
Mike the beginner said:
I do wish they had made it a 16mm-50mm though and bumped the price up to say $8,500
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Perhaps... But they're hitting a real sweet spot with 18-50mm @ $6500. It's like a no-brainer purchase. I'm not even sure if I'll buy the Nikon mount now. OK, I probably will just because I already have the lenses, but really... Instead of the 18-85mm, I'd like to see something like a 70-150mm (maybe even 70-200). OTOH, if the 18-85mm is still going to happen (I think it is), I wonder what the minimum focal distance will be? Hmmm... Decisions. Good thing I still have a while to figure it all out and see all the initial reports.
 
It may just be semantics but on the production buzz podcast Ted mentioned the 18-50 zoom and then corrected himself to say variable prime. Should we be thinking of this lens as a variable prime or a zoom?

M
 
Martin said:
It may just be semantics but on the production buzz podcast Ted mentioned the 18-50 zoom and then corrected himself to say variable prime. Should we be thinking of this lens as a variable prime or a zoom?

M
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A zoom...
 
short zooms are convenient, but not always the best choice for best look! Use primes if you are going for image quality!!
 
There have been a lot of very positive general comments about the quality of images coming from the lens but has anyone (Gibby?) had the opportunity to test the 18-50 out for breathing and propensity to flare? Over on CML, Stu Maschwitz comments on the lens having a breathing problem, but he doesn't go into any details. Has anyone else noticed anything or is he being overly picky.

M
 
Martin said:
There have been a lot of very positive general comments about the quality of images coming from the lens but has anyone (Gibby?) had the opportunity to test the 18-50 out for breathing and propensity to flare? Over on CML, Stu Maschwitz comments on the lens having a breathing problem, but he doesn't go into any details. Has anyone else noticed anything or is he being overly picky.

M
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No testing published yet. I've held the lens, inspected it, and helped attach it to "Boris" when I shot the stills of it for my Studio Daily article. It's being used in the RED NAB booth this week for demo to a monitor, and the results looked excellent. Since I have one of the first cameras shipping (#8), and I've assembled an expert team of DP's and Mike Curtis to conduct the tests, and we'll be testing a number of cine, still, and B4 lenses on #8, I'll try and arrange to test the RED 18-50 zoom on it also. I'm buying the 18-50, so the sooner I can test it out, the better. Someone claiming that the lens has a breathing problem when they haven't even tested the lens is just plain ludicrous. I saw no indication of breathing in the brief demo of the lens I saw at NAB.
 
I played around with the focus and zoom in the booth, just looking through the viewfinder, and saw no noticeable issues. Maybe not the best testing method or environment, but it looked pretty good to me. I look forward to Gibby's more thorough tests.
 
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