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UPDATE 8: 1 week in, was it worth it? ...
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Jeff - any links to reviews of substance and reliability? I've seen various short comments, but nothing that really felt like a review.
I guess I don't have that high of hopes for it and while it's great that it has UHD resolution, if it isn't passable for 1080p content, it's not going to fly around here. From some of the initial reports, and comments here, it seems the internal scaling is pure crap. IMO, it should be as simple as quadrupling each pixel to get a 1080p image, but it seems they have attempted something else and our 1080p turns to blurry goo. If the set needs external upscaling to look good, then we may as well buy the $5K Sony, IMO.
Unfortunately, no. That is what's truly weird about this... Seems like tons of people are buying and the only two comments I'm seeing from purchasers are:
1> It's freakin' awesome!!!
2> It sucks balls and I'm sending it back.
John,
Your tone is so serious...asking me to be careful with wording is pushy. I am laying it down as basic as possible.
Bottomline is that it does not have a sophisticated upscaling engine, plain and simple. I love the panel for the price.
It is important to point out to other potential buyers that this panel will not look good with 1080p sources feeding into which at the moment is likely 90 percent of people out there. Even i myself dont have a way to output 4k until redray ships.
I dont want anyone being dissappointed by how crappy 1080p looks on this panel.
For the price i am not expecting it to have the upscaling engine like the other brands.
Unless i missed the post, i didnt see anyone pointing out how bad 1080p feeds look in this panel.
I personally am totally fine without the sophistcated upscaling engine.
Other than that, love the panel.![]()
... Seems like tons of people are buying and the only two comments I'm seeing from purchasers are:
1> It's freakin' awesome!!!
2> It sucks balls and I'm sending it back. ...
The OPPO 103 has good scaling. I still think the deinterlacing in the 83 is superior to the 93 and 103, but the scaling sucks.
I am really on the fence with this display. I have almost ordered several times, but I don't really need multiple 4k displays.
Les, are the picture controls (contrast, brightness, etc...) enabled when sending in UHD? Some displays detect a PC is connected and disable them, unfortunately. Odd to hear about overscan with 24 Hz. That would be unfortunate.
... When it gets here, I'm going to feed it a variety of things, including 4K from a few different sources -- nVidia GTX Titan and/ or GTX690, ATI video card, upscaling Blu-Ray, a little box I'm not supposed to talk about (oops) and hopefully REDRAY in the next couple weeks. If the display sucks I'll sell or send back. If it's good, I have a good spot for it and will probably order 2 more.
OooooOOOOoooohhhh! Do tell!...a little box I'm not supposed to talk about (oops)...
There is absolutely no excuse for 1080p to look bad on this display. SD only looks bad on an HDTV or player with shitty scaling algorithms. They don't need any special scaling algorithm, all they have to do is quadruple each pixel and suddenly it's no different than showing 1080p on a 1080p display. I fear they are not doing that, they are indeed trying to run a semi-sophisticated scaling algorithm. A shitty one. That seems to fit most of the comments I've read and heard thus far. I'm being told that 1080p on this thing looks extra mushy.
Anyway, mine is already on a freight truck somewhere that is headed my way. When it gets here, I'm going to feed it a variety of things, including 4K from a few different sources -- nVidia GTX Titan and/ or GTX690, ATI video card, upscaling Blu-Ray, a little box I'm not supposed to talk about (oops) and hopefully REDRAY in the next couple weeks. If the display sucks I'll sell or send back. If it's good, I have a good spot for it and will probably order 2 more.
Red also had to defend the 4K benefits for a while as a scam/imperceivable,
and this tech hopefully shows people the benefits can be seen clearly at reasonable prices.
Curious how does the color look on this? Some are saying it's 10 bit (almost too good to be true) ? How are the blacks? The specs say 5000:1 contrast ratio which seems very low but I understand the way manufacturers have been interpreting or calculating this ratio is very subject to the point where it's almost meaningless.
a little box I'm not supposed to talk about (oops)