$1299 Seiki UHDTV 50" SE50UY04 - Bought it today

[Kwan Khan]

Another 4k monitor for $under 1500
Skyworth 4K 50"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyphqOTamjU

 

[Carlos Misenas]

Bill,
I'm driving them with commodity Geforce cards. One ststem has a 480 the other a 670.
I am not sure why anyone would need something more just to get an HDMI signal to it. Unless the sync dropouts are geforce related.
I am still getting intermittent sync dropouts, once every few min. or so, not sure why.
I'll mess with the custom timings a bit this weekend to try to fix.

Les,
I have a GTX 480 that I am hoping to use with the Seiki, but I think it might only have HDMI 1.3. Do you know what make and model your GTX 480 is?


I contacted Nvidia's level 2 tech department and they told me that no Fermi based GPUs (4xx, 5xx) support 4k/UHD and it was a feature limited to Kepler (6xx). They also mentioned that most spec sheets don't list the capability due to a marketing template error.


In the PCPer video that was posted they were using a GTX 680 and it supported the resolution without having to set a custom timing; just the default windows resolution setting, and they ran it for about half and hour with no dropouts.

 

[Mark Nicholson]

My Evga 560ti 448 will output 4k

 

[stephenv2]

Les,
I have a GTX 480 that I am hoping to use with the Seiki, but I think it might only have HDMI 1.3. Do you know what make and model your GTX 480 is?.

I have GTX 460's and my Seiki is due here Monday. I will report as soon as I can. I also have 8300 GS with HDMI 1.4a (supposedly), so curiously what it will do. The information online about this is very conflicting.

 

[Les Dittert]

I'm not sure what model 480. I'll have to open it up but they're all based on a reference design anyway usually.
That technician had no idea what he was talking about.

 

[Jarred Land]

We got a truck load of these delivered to the studio today. Panels look better than you would expect for $1200 but they are no where near the big dogs.. mostly in terms of bit depth, color accuracy and controls ( as expected )

Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good. Gradients from light to dark and fades you really notice the lack of bits that the panel can process.. looks like it handles about 6 bits and doesn't dither very well if at all. Color gradient charts that are preloaded on REDRAY seem to reveal a bit of non-linearity per color in the display.

You need to turn sharpening to zero and color is a single slider that you need to find out the sweet spot. Also noise reduction off.

I also hooked it up to some video cards.. The GTX 680 works great, the GTX 690 doesn't yet ( no HDMI port and i couldnt find the adapter to see if it works)

I think this is where this screen was meant to live.. its a great large computer monitor with a ton of real estate and the size isn't too obnoxious. Just make sure you have a nice small 27" or 30" monitor on the side for color accuracy. Solidworks guys are gonna have wet dreams with this monitor.

 

[Rob Anderson]

We got a truck load of these delivered to the studio today. Panels look better than you would expect for $1200 but they are no where near the big dogs.. mostly in terms of bit depth, color accuracy and controls ( as expected )

Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good. Gradients from light to dark and fades you really notice the lack of bits that the panel can process.. looks like it handles about 6 bits and doesn't dither very well if at all. Color gradient charts that are preloaded on REDRAY seem to reveal a bit of non-linearity per color in the display.

You need to turn sharpening to zero and color is a single slider that you need to find out the sweet spot. Also noise reduction off.

I also hooked it up to some video cards.. The GTX 680 works great, the GTX 690 doesn't yet ( no HDMI port and i couldnt find the adapter to see if it works)

I think this is where this screen was meant to live.. its a great large computer monitor with a ton of real estate and the size isn't too obnoxious. Just make sure you have a nice small 27" or 30" monitor on the side for color accuracy. Solidworks guys are gonna have wet dreams with this monitor.

Awesome. Thanks for the review Jarred. Very helpful.

 

[Mark Nicholson]

Thanks for the update with your testing. Too bad its probably just a 6-bit panel. Still amazing for the price. I still wonder what would happen if you send it 2 seperate 1920x2160@60p in ports HDMI 1 and 2 and see if there is a way to combine the two inputs like the manual lightly alludes to.

I also hooked it up to some video cards.. The GTX 680 works great, the GTX 690 doesn't yet ( no HDMI port and i couldnt find the adapter to see if it works)

Should work with a Dual Link DVI to HDMI cable, should also be HDCP and include audio on an Nvidia card.

 

[Jarred Land]

Should work with a Dual Link DVI to HDMI cable, should also be HDCP and include audio on an Nvidia card.

yeah.. the 690 comes with a little adapter to do that.. but i have no idea where i put it.

 

[Kwan Khan]

We got a truck load of these delivered to the studio today. Panels look better than you would expect for $1200 but they are no where near the big dogs.. mostly in terms of bit depth, color accuracy and controls ( as expected )

Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good. Gradients from light to dark and fades you really notice the lack of bits that the panel can process.. looks like it handles about 6 bits and doesn't dither very well if at all. Color gradient charts that are preloaded on REDRAY seem to reveal a bit of non-linearity per color in the display.

You need to turn sharpening to zero and color is a single slider that you need to find out the sweet spot. Also noise reduction off.

I also hooked it up to some video cards.. The GTX 680 works great, the GTX 690 doesn't yet ( no HDMI port and i couldnt find the adapter to see if it works)

I think this is where this screen was meant to live.. its a great large computer monitor with a ton of real estate and the size isn't too obnoxious. Just make sure you have a nice small 27" or 30" monitor on the side for color accuracy. Solidworks guys are gonna have wet dreams with this monitor.

Thanks for sharing

 

[Phil Holland]

We got a truck load of these delivered to the studio today. Panels look better than you would expect for $1200 but they are no where near the big dogs.. mostly in terms of bit depth, color accuracy and controls ( as expected )

Thanks for that info Jarred. I'm putting aside about $6K for my next edit review/dailies monitor (similar to the cost of the 1080p Samsung I use from back in the day). For now I'm looking closely at these Sony XBRs and sort of waiting on a few of the other guys to come to the party. Looks like Samsung is going to show several new 4K displays at IFA 2013 in August likely at similar and probably smaller price points.

 

[John Bellari]

We got a truck load of these delivered to the studio today. Panels look better than you would expect for $1200 but they are no where near the big dogs.. mostly in terms of bit depth, color accuracy and controls ( as expected )

Obviously first thing we did was hook it up to REDRAY and it looked pretty good. Gradients from light to dark and fades you really notice the lack of bits that the panel can process.. looks like it handles about 6 bits and doesn't dither very well if at all. Color gradient charts that are preloaded on REDRAY seem to reveal a bit of non-linearity per color in the display.

You need to turn sharpening to zero and color is a single slider that you need to find out the sweet spot. Also noise reduction off.

I also hooked it up to some video cards.. The GTX 680 works great, the GTX 690 doesn't yet ( no HDMI port and i couldnt find the adapter to see if it works)

I think this is where this screen was meant to live.. its a great large computer monitor with a ton of real estate and the size isn't too obnoxious. Just make sure you have a nice small 27" or 30" monitor on the side for color accuracy. Solidworks guys are gonna have wet dreams with this monitor.

Hi Jarred,

Thanks for the feedback!

Was the REDRAY player capable of driving this display at 60Hz at 2160p over single HDMI, or any other connection combination?

Possibly 60Hz with dual HDMI?
(sticker in manual covers this up with single HDMI connection)

Also, any calibration tips or tools for 4K?

Thanks for any further feedback...

 

[stephenv2]

Too bad its probably just a 6-bit panel. Still amazing for the price.

No one has verified the bit depth of the panel nor, so far, done a proper calibration on it either to test usable bit-depth. AFAIK, no one has actually identified the panel at all.

 

[Jarred Land]

Hi Jarred,

Thanks for the feedback!

Was the REDRAY player capable of driving this display at 60Hz at 2160p over single HDMI, or any other connection combination?

Possibly 60Hz with dual HDMI?
(sticker in manual covers this up with single HDMI connection)

Also, any calibration tips or tools for 4K?

Thanks for any further feedback...

Single HDMI was what i tested.. and it was nowhere near 60Hz. It seemed to like 8 bit RGB, Feeding it 12 bit YCC from REDRAY made the monitor freak out.

we will bring it into the lab and see how far we can push this. You guys with REDRAY players have a bunch of test charts that will help calibrating your sets.. as its always good to calibrate to the source.

The important thing here is that this display is one of those "switches" that has been flicked. The lights are on.. 4K is here.. The consumers are waking up.

 

[Kwan Khan]

You guys with REDRAY players have a bunch of test charts that will help calibrating your sets.. as its always good to calibrate to the source.

Thats Nice

The important thing here is that this display is one of those "switches" that has been flicked. The lights are on.. 4K is here.. The consumers are waking up.

Agreed

 

[Patrick Tong]

Single HDMI was what i tested.. and it was nowhere near 60Hz. It seemed to like 8 bit RGB, Feeding it 12 bit YCC from REDRAY made the monitor freak out.

we will bring it into the lab and see how far we can push this. You guys with REDRAY players have a bunch of test charts that will help calibrating your sets.. as its always good to calibrate to the source.

The important thing here is that this display is one of those "switches" that has been flicked. The lights are on.. 4K is here.. The consumers are waking up.

Nice ..Thanks Jarred:thumbsup:

 

[Mark Andersen]

Forget all that. Instead, build a PC with a new-ish GPU from Nvidia or AMD, one that has the new 3GHz HDMI 1.4. That's capable of 4K. Connect PC to display via HDMI and you're off to the races.

Or you can use the new 4K studio from Black Magic with your mac or Macbook via thunderbolt.

 

[Mark Andersen]

Something tells me this is going to be a big letdown for 4K early adopters... I've been itching to pull the trigger, but now I think I'll wait for the SONY.

Sony Pre-orders are open today.

 

[houkouonchi]

Should work with a Dual Link DVI to HDMI cable, should also be HDCP and include audio on an Nvidia card.

Doubtful. I don't believe dual link DVI is compatible with higher spec HDMI at all. Single link DVI was fully compatible with the original HDMI spec though (for 165 Mhz bandwidth).

I think the only other port you could drive this monitor from at full spec is display port via a display port -> HDMI adapter that does 1.4 spec. I bought one here and will report back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Displa...=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a7fe532f2

These specifically say they support 1920x1080 @ 120Hz which should be approximately the same amount of bandwidth for 3840x2160@30Hz so I am hoping they work for driving via display port.

This adapter will arrive Monday. Still not sure when the TV is coming. It shipped out on the 15th but still no word on a delivery date =(

 

[Mark Nicholson]

Doubtful. I don't believe dual link DVI is compatible with higher spec HDMI at all. Single link DVI was fully compatible with the original HDMI spec though (for 165 Mhz bandwidth).

Just to clarify I am using a DVI>HDMI cable right now to drive my Panasonic plasma from my card. I can send 1920x2160@60hz witch syncs no issue or 3840x2140@30hz which will work for a few seconds. It also sends audio at these resolutions.