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$1299 Seiki UHDTV 50" SE50UY04 - Bought it today

I was wondering what the height of the set is with the stand? The specs say 26.65" without and 28.66" with, but from the photos it looks like it raises it quite a bit higher than 2".
 
Carlos Misenas said:
I was wondering what the height of the set is with the stand? The specs say 26.65" without and 28.66" with, but from the photos it looks like it raises it quite a bit higher than 2".
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Mine sits 28.75 inches high (measuring from my desk not the base of the stand.

Measuring from the desk to the very bottom of the display is ~ 2.25 inches.
 
Nick Stavinsky said:
On the low end, I tested Radeon HD 7770, it picks up 4K right away and it seems to have less issues with blanking than Nvidia cards.

But the real gem, to my surprise, was... Radeon HD 5450 with 512MB RAM. The computer just booted straight into 3840x2160@30p on generic Windows driver. This is a $30 card :ohmy:... in case you were wondering what kind of processing power and prowess is needed to drive such mighty resolution (decoding 4K video is a whole different story, of course).
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He, he. You guys are wasting time with Nvidia, ATI does these things much better, even advanced Intel chipsets will.

People didn't believe me that the all powerful uhd could be done on a cheap card before.


Jeff Kilgroe said:
Nothing for REC 2020 yet. I think the Sony OLED will support it, their guy at NAB was under the impression that 2020 was on the table for that monitor. But it's still a year away from production, maybe more. This is all stuff to look forward to with HDMI 2.0 and other upcoming interfaces. And the pro monitors will support that as well as quad 3G-SDI, possibly dual or quad 6G-SDI. That one is a funky BlackMagic thing at the moment, but it's getting a lot of interest from others -- they're willing to openly license it and it's a simple DDR style take on SDI signaling to double bandwidth. As usual, the paper specifications for new standards precede the hardware.

According to what RED has had to say about the .RED codec and REDRAY -- especially integration directly with the projectors -- their projectors should be able to exceed REC2020. I would expect the REDRAY projector to support 2020 on release or if not I'm positive it will have an upgrade path to allow it. I'm willing to bet some of the delay on the projector goes beyond simply not being ready. I'm betting RED is also waiting for appropriate interfaces to come available. We cant run everything through the REDRAY portion, some of us need other ways to feed
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What did I say. Jarred said he got new 1.4 cables, I thought strange as it has been around. Maybe he was talking about an new addition of hdmi cable?


What people around here will have to figure out,is that most low end clients won't have redray, and you need a production and display format to distribute daily jobs (most work is not cibetograohy on the low end).

An interesting question along these lines, is dies the set have internal us 4k playback capabilities at all?



Hdmi to thunderbolt.

There were some unexpected issues with the thunderbolt to hdmi cables on some computers from memory.
 
Thanks for the idea guys, got into the service menu of my old tv eventually, and found out it is a cmo panel, though one site says it is manufactured by sharp. I'm going to look at getting rid of a problem I've been meaning to. It is color balanced, but you either burn out on the top end or the bottom. However, there is only contrast and brightness controls, so I might have to look at trying color gain and other controls to see if I can set it there. Anybody know which is the best strategy.
 
Wayne Morellini said:
He, he. You guys are wasting time with Nvidia, ATI does these things much better, even advanced Intel chipsets will.

People didn't believe me that the all powerful uhd could be done on a cheap card before.
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Nvidia does it fine under Windows. Linux and OSX resolution support is severely lacking. There is also disparity between cards from different manufacturers and how they have implemented their video out abilities. Both ATI and nvidia have been driving 3840x2160 and similar resolutions for some time now. Same with ATI. It doesn't require their expensive high-end cards to do so. Well, it does if you actually want to move polygons about and have real frame rates at those resolutions, but the displays themselves are still limited to a paltry ~30fps with current HDMI 1.4.

Under OSX, AMD/ATI is the superior graphics solution most of the time. Unfortunately, most of us around here are running nvidia due to Adobe CS6, Resolve and other R3D and related applications requiring CUDA support.


What did I say. Jarred said he got new 1.4 cables, I thought strange as it has been around. Maybe he was talking about an new addition of hdmi cable?
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Who knows... The REDRAY has always had multiple HDMI 1.4a outputs and RED Projector has always had both HDMI 1.4a input and output. We'll need HDMI 2.0 in order to support REC2020 and other upcoming color spaces. Any 18Gbps capable HDMI cable can support HDMI 1.4[a], it's not like there's a magic new cable. In a nutshell, any quality cable that meets the HDMI 1.2b spec is good for now. And the cheap ones from vendors like Monoprice are actually some of the best performing cables out there in my testing. I've had fewer of their longer cables die than anyone else's too! Perhaps he had to upgrade some older garbage cables... I've had to do that here and there. HDMI 2.0 will require cables rated for a higher speed, but I don't recall that off the top of my head.

What people around here will have to figure out,is that most low end clients won't have redray, and you need a production and display format to distribute daily jobs (most work is not cibetograohy on the low end).
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Of course, but for now most clients are not going to have any method of playing back 4K. Sony's 4K player ships later this year, but unlike REDRAY, it's an entirely closed ecosystem, so only content obtained through Sony's media store and channels will play on it. It should also support Amazon, Netflix and a few others.

An interesting question along these lines, is dies the set have internal us 4k playback capabilities at all?[/quote]

Not sure what you mean by that specifically. But if you feed it a standard UHD feed over HDMI and it works just fine at full resolution. There is no internal 4K tuner for OTA or ATSC feeds, but the ATSC has yet to officially adopt UHD and no broadcasters anywhere, in the world, have decided on any common means by which to send UHD.



Hdmi to thunderbolt.

There were some unexpected issues with the thunderbolt to hdmi cables on some computers from memory.
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Several computers with Thunderbolt, predominantly the first round of PCs with it, would only run video from the onboard Intel GPU through the Thunderbolt port. There have been other issues and many only have a very finite selection of supported resolutions via there firmware. As limited as the Apple TB to HDMI abilities are, they're still the best out there as far as I'm aware.
 
Tried to trawl this thread but my head hurts...

Got a MacPro 5,1 here - GT120, GTX285 resolve combo in it right now. Radeon 5770 1Gb lurking in a drawer somewhere... any of that going to allow me to connect 3840x2160 to a Seiki and play UHD prores files smoothly?
 
Mine was just delivered. The delivery guy helped me carry it upstairs. When I looked in his van ... there were 3 additional panels in the back awaiting delivery today ... Hmmm ...

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Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
John Marchant said:
Got a MacPro 5,1 here - GT120, GTX285 resolve combo in it right now. Radeon 5770 1Gb lurking in a drawer somewhere... any of that going to allow me to connect 3840x2160 to a Seiki and play UHD prores files smoothly?
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GT120 and GTX285 are both from 2009, neither will do 4K over HDMI. With DVI-to-HDMI adapter, who knows?

As for AMD, I believe their Southern Islands series cards were the first AMD ones to support 4K over HDMI: that's the HD 7000 series, launched early 2012. HD 8000 series does 4K over HDMI, too.

Although, having said that, Nick Stavinsky posted earlier in this thread that his Radeon HD 5450 outputs 4K (although specs on AMD's site don't mention 4K). So giving the HD 5770 a shot is not a bad idea.
 
Mine is defective - returning

Mine is defective - returning

Mine is defective - so I'm returning for exchange (only thing offered - no refund) but it was great for the 60 minutes or so it worked in 4K. In case this happens to someone else, the symptom was when coming out of sleep or power off, 4K would no longer work and looked like this.
 

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I just got mine in today. Unfortunately I don't have a computer with a video card that can drive this. I have one being built right now but I won't get it for a week or two (ordered a computer with a GTX 660). If anyone has a computer with a video card that can drive this monitor maybe we can arrange a visit so you can demo the monitor and I can make sure that 4K is working properly over HDMI 1.4a. I live in Mountain View, CA. You can contact me via private message. First come first serve. I will likely be doing this for the first couple people that express interest.
 
Todd T said:
I suspect the question was USB 4K playback...
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Crap, I don't know what I read the first time, but I totally missed the "USB" part. So to answer that, I have no idea and I'm guessing that it doesn't. I don't expect to see that ability in any TV or media player until all the H.265 equipment arrives. This thing seems to serve best as a monitor and nothing more.

Looks like i actually get mine tomorrow! I hope TigerDirect got a good deal from AIT to ship these because it's taking FOREVER.
 
OK. I found something that may be of interest to you (especially you, Jeff). Here is the Product Specification Manual for the V500DK1-LS1:

http://www.displayalliance.com/storage/1-spec-sheets/V500DK1-LS1.pdf

48 pages of fun!


________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8
 
stephenv2 said:
GTX 660 (EVGA) - One monitor display port at 1920 x 1200, one DVI at 2560 x 1600, one DVI to HDMI to Seiki at 4K.
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And it looks normal? When DVI is > 165 Mhz it is dual link DVI. This is why this didn't make sense to me as that is not really compatible with HDMI.

I tested this and sure enough once i go from 165 -> 165.01 Mhz it goes from a clear picture to one missing half its lines because the video card switched to dual link DVI. You are actually getting a good picture with this method?
 
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